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Hello to everyone, 

I'm new in this community, and maybe I've opened a topic already treated, but i want to see if I'm lucky. 

I'm here to ask if someone know the full chronological line of the Dragon Quest saga, I'm going crazy 'cause i find only something in spanish that explain the chronological position between Dragon Quest 1 and 6, but i want to know all about it. 

I hope you may help me in this research, thank you. 

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5 hours ago, Daedlius said:

I hope you may help me in this research, thank you. 

No problem, but we should ask for some clarification: are you asking for a series timeline, as in the chronological order of each game?

If you are, you should know that that gets a little confusing, because many of these games take place in different worlds, and sometimes characters will jump between worlds.

This is a synopsis:

Timeline 1 (Erdrick Trilogy): Dragon Quest III --> Dragon Quest I --> Dragon Quest II --> Dragon Quest Monsters Caravan Heart (BRIDGE A)

Timeline 1 Alt: DQ I --> DQ Builders --> DQ Builders 2

Timeline 2: (Zenithian Trilogy): DQ IV --> Mystery Dungeon Series (BRIDGE B) ?-> DQ V ?-> DQ Monsters 1 (BRIDGE C) --> DQ VI ?-> DQ IV ?-> DQ V

This one is odd. Dragon Quest IV, Dragon Quest V, Dragon Quest VI apparently take place in the same universe, but if they actually share a planet it appears to undergo immense continental drift between installations and there are some mythological inconsistencies to resolve between them. DQ VI for example, is commonly thought to be a prequel to IV and V because a certain hatching egg is hinted/commonly thought to be the Zenith Dragon, but it also declares that Dragon Quest V is in the past and Dragon Quest IV is in the distant past, so there's some fan conjecture that it might actually be a cyclic universe.

Timeline 3: DQ Monsters Caravan Heart (BRIDGE A) --> DQ VII

Dragon Quest VII is mostly independent from all previous games but DQ Monsters Caravan Heart used a young Prince Keifer for the main character of a prequel-spinoff and sent him on an adventure in the world of Alefgard, long after DQ 2.

Timeline 4: Mystery Dungeon Series (BRIDGE B) --> DQ VIII

Like in Timeline 3, Dragon Quest VIII is mostly independent, but they attached another prequel-spinoff to it, this one featuring Yangus going to another world called the Pottal Land, where he also meets Torneko from IV. Torneko and Ragnar also show up as bonus characters in DQVIII, so they are capable of traveling there from their own.

Timeline 5: DQ IX

Timeline 6? DQ X

Someone more knowledgeable about this one will have to step in and explain, because I know there are callbacks to previous games (including IX) in DQ X, but I don't know how tightly tied together they are.

Timeline 7: Dragon Quest Monsters 1 (BRIDGE C) --> Dragon Quest Monsters 2

DQ Monsters 1 was technically the first prequel-spinoff, starring Terry of DQ VI going on adventures in the world of GreatTree and GreatLog, which were in a different world than his.

Timeline 8? Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker ?? DQ Monsters: Joker 2/Joker 2 Professional --> DQ Monsters: Joker 3/Joker 3 Professional

I know the Monsters: Joker subseries is supposed to take place in a different world than the first two monsters games, but I'm not sure how these games relate to each other chronologically. Joker 2 takes place in a different location than Joker 1, but it also has an inexplicably different version of a major character (Solitaire) from Joker 1 and there's no reference to whether the first game had already happened or was going to. The advertising for Joker 3 Professional indicates that it's a sequel of sorts to the first two games; maybe @Plattym3 would know.

The following has spoilers for DQXI:

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Dragon Quest XI is technically a prequel to Dragon Quest III, so I believe it should be in Timeline 1. I haven't played it myself and am trying to avoid spoilers, but that bit got spoiled for me some time ago, alas.

And I think that covers most of it.

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Joker 3 is an odd one. If you really want to know...



It takes place on a series of islands flying through space (if I remember correctly). Seems like humanity is leaving their planet going to another one. Didn't seem related to any other game whatsoever.

 

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3 hours ago, Brother Jaybird said:

EDIT: I am remiss! Welcome to the Den! Be sure to start an introduction thread so everyone else can say Hi properly.

No problem, but we should ask for some clarification: are you asking for a series timeline, as in the chronological order of each game?

If you are, you should know that that gets a little confusing, because many of these games take place in different worlds, and sometimes characters will jump between worlds.

This is a synopsis:

Timeline 1 (Erdrick Trilogy): Dragon Quest III --> Dragon Quest I --> Dragon Quest II --> Dragon Quest Monsters Caravan Heart (BRIDGE A)

Timeline 1 Alt: DQ I --> DQ Builders --> DQ Builders 2

Timeline 2: (Zenithian Trilogy): DQ IV --> Mystery Dungeon Series (BRIDGE B) ?-> DQ V ?-> DQ Monsters 1 (BRIDGE C) --> DQ VI ?-> DQ IV ?-> DQ V

This one is odd. Dragon Quest IV, Dragon Quest V, Dragon Quest VI apparently take place in the same universe, but if they actually share a planet it appears to undergo immense continental drift between installations and there are some mythological inconsistencies to resolve between them. DQ VI for example, is commonly thought to be a prequel to IV and V because a certain hatching egg is hinted/commonly thought to be the Zenith Dragon, but it also declares that Dragon Quest V is in the past and Dragon Quest IV is in the distant past, so there's some fan conjecture that it might actually be a cyclic universe.

Timeline 3: DQ Monsters Caravan Heart (BRIDGE A) --> DQ VII

Dragon Quest VII is mostly independent from all previous games but DQ Monsters Caravan Heart used a young Prince Keifer for the main character of a prequel-spinoff and sent him on an adventure in the world of Alefgard, long after Timeline 2.

Timeline 4: Mystery Dungeon Series (BRIDGE B) --> DQ VIII

Like in Timeline 3, Dragon Quest VIII is mostly independent, but they attached another prequel-spinoff to it, this one featuring Yangus going to another world called the Pottal Land, where he also meets Torneko from IV. Torneko and Ragnar also show up as bonus characters in DQVIII, so they are capable of traveling there from their own.

Timeline 5: DQ IX

Timeline 6? DQ X

Someone more knowledgeable about this one will have to step in and explain, because I know there are callbacks to previous games (including IX) in DQ X, but I don't know how tightly tied together they are.

Timeline 7: Dragon Quest Monsters 1 (BRIDGE C) --> Dragon Quest Monsters 2

DQ Monsters 1 was technically the first prequel-spinoff, starring Terry of DQ VI going on adventures in the world of GreatTree and GreatLog, which were in a different world than his.

Timeline 8? Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker ?? DQ Monsters: Joker 2/Joker 2 Professional --> DQ Monsters: Joker 3/Joker 3 Professional

I know the Monsters: Joker subseries is supposed to take place in a different world than the first two monsters games, but I'm not sure how these games relate to each other chronologically. Joker 2 takes place in a different location than Joker 1, but it also has an inexplicably different version of a major character (Solitaire) from Joker 1 and there's no reference to whether the first game had already happened or was going to. The advertising for Joker 3 Professional indicates that it's a sequel of sorts to the first two games; maybe @Plattym3 would know.

The following has spoilers for DQXI:

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Dragon Quest XI is technically a prequel to Dragon Quest III, so I believe it should be in Timeline 1. I haven't played it myself and am trying to avoid spoilers, but that bit got spoiled for me some time ago, alas.

And I think that covers most of it.

Thank you for your complete answer, it was exactly what i was asking for. 

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Dragon Quest XI is a prequel of Dragon Quest III, that's really interesting. 

So there is no link between Dragon Quest VIII and Dragon Quest XI? 

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You're welcome. I'm glad you got what you were looking for, but please be mindful of spoilers for others outside of dedicated DQXI threads. If you're using the forum directly, you can add a spoiler section by clicking on the black eyeball on your text editor's menu.

I couldn't answer anything about XI in depth, as I haven't played it.

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57 minutes ago, Brother Jaybird said:

You're welcome. I'm glad you got what you were looking for, but please be mindful of spoilers for others outside of dedicated DQXI threads. If you're using the forum directly, you can add a spoiler section by clicking on the black eyeball on your text editor's menu.

I couldn't answer anything about XI in depth, as I haven't played it.

Ok, i resolved it. 

I hope someone who will be able to give me more info about the final question. 

By te way, thank you very much for the perfect answer, i really appreciated it. 

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9 hours ago, Daedlius said:

So there is no link between Dragon Quest VIII and Dragon Quest XI?

If there was a link between the two I didn't catch it

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Only thing I could think of could be the books on the bookshelf in the final scene, since there are 11 books on the shelf she puts the book back on.

The bookshelf is about 14:30 into the video here if you want to look - DQ11 Ending Part 2

 

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On 1/27/2020 at 11:24 PM, Daedlius said:

By te way, thank you very much for the perfect answer, i really appreciated it. 

You're welcome, but allow me to correct some inaccuracies that I've discovered on research.

DQX lore heavily implies the game to be a sequel to IX set thousands upon thousands of years in the future (which is strange, because the game also has its own completely unique creation mythos that has nothing to do with DQIX) -- the first to defeat the King of Calamity in history was known as the Guardian of Starry Skies (i.e. the protagonist of DQIX).

And DQVI doesn't imply DQ IV and DQ V to be in the past in the manner I described -- I checked and the game deliberately indicates those games are respectively in the future and the far future, so it is essentially a confirmed prequel, but it still makes oblique reference to those games having already happened (e.g. a book directly referencing the choice of brides from DQV).

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The manga of DQVII and Emblem of Roto - Heirs of the Crest (I don't know if this one has an official english name, I'm merel translating the french version of the title) hints at VII being set after II, in the upper world of III, and I believe it also hints at VIII being set before III. 

Emblem of Roto, EoR - Heirs of the Crest and the DQVII manga were all made by the same team if I'm not mistaken. The three mangas are a trilogy anyway, having the same artist but also shared characters. All three of them were also supervised by Horii, but I don't know if that means he had anything to do with the development of these manga. 

That, plus the fact that you have similar themes both in XI, VIII and III (the orbs mainly, which are also heavily important in the novels/manga Seirei Rubiss Densetsu (made officialy canon by Enix in the early 90s) but also the fact that the Lord of the Dragovian's ultimate form is basically the same form as Dragonlord), do make me believe that VIII is set before III anyway, but I guess it is up for a debate. 

I can't say if the hint at the link with DQVIII will be kept in the French version but here's what I gathered from one of the upcoming chapter of Heirs of the Crest:

Spoil for Chapter 302 "Encounter with Destiny"

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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In chapter 302 "Encounter with destiny", in order to bring a character back to life (I avoid names so as not to spoil too much, but I'm quite willing to give them out if asked), a couple will venture to heaven and discover what makes Elric's blood so special, the composition of the Hero's blood in short. 
It is possible that the description will change or be modified during the translation of this chapter into French. This is the link to the article that talks about the chapter in question. 
The blood of the Hero, therefore, would be a mixture of heavenly blood (天空人の血 " Tenkū hito no chi ") and the blood of the dragon god (竜神族の血 " ryūjin-zoku no chi "). 

Small etymological point necessary I think. 竜神族 is composed of three different characters: 
竜 = Ryu = Dragon
神 = shin (or kami depending on the time) = God
族 = zoku = tribe  


It is interesting to note that "ryujin-zoku" is only used precisely in Dragon Quest VIII, the humanoid creatures of Dragon Quest X being called "竜族", meaning tribe of the dragon, not tribe of the dragon god roughly.
The Heirs of the Emblem announces that the blood of Elric, the hero of Dragon Quest III has traces of Dragovian blood among other things. For this to be the case, Dragon Quest VIII must have happened before Dragon Quest III, which could be the beginning of a chronological placement trail, between XI and III.

 

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On 5/1/2020 at 6:25 PM, Xiggy said:

The manga of DQVII and Emblem of Roto - Heirs of the Crest (I don't know if this one has an official english name, I'm merel translating the french version of the title) hints at VII being set after II, in the upper world of III, and I believe it also hints at VIII being set before III. 

Emblem of Roto, EoR - Heirs of the Crest and the DQVII manga were all made by the same team if I'm not mistaken. The three mangas are a trilogy anyway, having the same artist but also shared characters. All three of them were also supervised by Horii, but I don't know if that means he had anything to do with the development of these manga. 

That, plus the fact that you have similar themes both in XI, VIII and III (the orbs mainly, which are also heavily important in the novels/manga Seirei Rubiss Densetsu (made officialy canon by Enix in the early 90s) but also the fact that the Lord of the Dragovian's ultimate form is basically the same form as Dragonlord), do make me believe that VIII is set before III anyway, but I guess it is up for a debate. 

I can't say if the hint at the link with DQVIII will be kept in the French version but here's what I gathered from one of the upcoming chapter of Heirs of the Crest:

Spoil for Chapter 302 "Encounter with Destiny"

Spoiler
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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In chapter 302 "Encounter with destiny", in order to bring a character back to life (I avoid names so as not to spoil too much, but I'm quite willing to give them out if asked), a couple will venture to heaven and discover what makes Elric's blood so special, the composition of the Hero's blood in short. 
It is possible that the description will change or be modified during the translation of this chapter into French. This is the link to the article that talks about the chapter in question. 
The blood of the Hero, therefore, would be a mixture of heavenly blood (天空人の血 " Tenkū hito no chi ") and the blood of the dragon god (竜神族の血 " ryūjin-zoku no chi "). 

Small etymological point necessary I think. 竜神族 is composed of three different characters: 
竜 = Ryu = Dragon
神 = shin (or kami depending on the time) = God
族 = zoku = tribe  


It is interesting to note that "ryujin-zoku" is only used precisely in Dragon Quest VIII, the humanoid creatures of Dragon Quest X being called "竜族", meaning tribe of the dragon, not tribe of the dragon god roughly.
The Heirs of the Emblem announces that the blood of Elric, the hero of Dragon Quest III has traces of Dragovian blood among other things. For this to be the case, Dragon Quest VIII must have happened before Dragon Quest III, which could be the beginning of a chronological placement trail, between XI and III.

 

That is really interesting to be honest! Is it ok if I could have a link to this, I just want to see out of curiousity.

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1 hour ago, Nomad Dragon said:

Is it ok if I could have a link to this

Why of course! :D

https://dq11.site/2018/12/12/「ドラゴンクエスト列伝-ロトの紋章~紋章を継ぐ/

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3 hours ago, Nomad Dragon said:

Thank you so much. Currently working on a DQ3 remake concept and I figured I added lore from all this. So this would help out tremendously!

You're most welcome! That's one remake I'll be super excited about! :o

Will you add elements from the novels of DQIII and/or the novel centered on Rubiss as well?

I'm looking forward to playing these remake anyway! Good luck with that. ^^

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15 minutes ago, Xiggy said:

You're most welcome! That's one remake I'll be super excited about! :o

Will you add elements from the novels of DQIII and/or the novel centered on Rubiss as well?

I'm looking forward to playing these remake anyway! Good luck with that. ^^

I am indeed actually. Once the concept finishes, it will be posted somewhere in the forum!

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56 minutes ago, Nomad Dragon said:

I am indeed actually. Once the concept finishes, it will be posted somewhere in the forum!

I'll be sure to keep a sharp eye open then! :D

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Wow... That's simply awesome, I'm falling in love with all this and i really thank you for all this informations😍

I have just the first manga of EoR and after your post i'ill certainly go on buying that manga 

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Wow... That's simply awesome, I'm falling in love with all this and i really thank you for all this informations
I have just the first manga of EoR and after your post i'ill certainly go on buying that manga 
I'm currently 40% through the massive Dai manga. Does EoR have an English fan translation?
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10 hours ago, Daedlius said:
Wow... That's simply awesome, I'm falling in love with all this and i really thank you for all this informationsemoji7.png
I have just the first manga of EoR and after your post i'ill certainly go on buying that manga 

I'm currently 40% through the massive Dai manga. Does EoR have an English fan translation?

There is an Italian translation, so i think there is an English translation too

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10 hours ago, eal said:

Eeyore? 

Emblem of Roto. ^^

A manga by Kamui Fujiwara, taking place between DQIII and DQI and supervised by Horii. 

The manga is available in French and Italian yeah, I don't think there is an English translation... Yet? Maybe if you people ask US manga publisher to get the manga translated it might become a possibility, especially now that it already has official translations. Might be easier to do it like that, rather than translating from the Japanese version again. 🤔

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I have the first 18 levels (out of the 86 total) in English that someone uploaded here years ago, the first page gives this site as the translators

https://www.e-n-m.net/projects/dq_eor/

But the project had been dropped.

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Well, if anyone has questions about the story, characters, or anything really, about Emblem o Roto or its sequel, I'd be more than happy to share informations/photos etc. 😄

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DQ chronology begins with the era of zenus (dq9), then to the era of celestria (DQ 4,5,6,8,10), then to minor goddesses (DQ 1,2,3)and finally to numen (dq7). I like to think of numen as a reformed zenus

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Zenus (his Japanese name in DQIX is 創造神グランゼニス ("Sōzō-shin guranzenisu", or in English Creation God Grand Zenith, or something like that) is present in DQX, where he's called グランゼニス  ("Guranzenisu", or just Grand Zenith in English). 

It's the god who created mankind (as opposed to those who created the other playable races) and he's alive and well, while his daughter is nowhere to be seen (even tho I believe a ship is named after her Japanese name). 

There are numerous quests and some npcs (mostly Stella and Sterling) that connect IX and X together. I'm mostly thinking about this quest: グレイナル叙事詩 ("Gureinaru jojishi", or in English "The Epic of Greygnarl") which tells how the first hero of time helped defeat the King of Disaster (the scary looking Estark). This first hero, if I understood it well, was titled 星空の守り人 ("Hoshizora no mamoribito", or in English "Gardian of the Starry Skies") too. 

 

 

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