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I mean, has anyone else not already played XI, but you’re planning to buy Switch version day one or soon?

Anyone’s first DQ game? Or like me, your first DQ game after a long hiatus?

Also, anybody here who played XI, but the hype for the Definitive Edition feels fresh for you?

I am so excited for this game! I am more full of anticipation than I have ever been for a game in my life, even as a kid. I saw several people say this on YouTube, actually… that they always “respected” DQ and kind of “liked” DQ, but this is the first time they’ve loved DQ. They universally attribute that to the cast and the glorious detail of Erdrea.

I think there’s another element, though. For me personally, XI is the first DQ I’ve encountered as an adult that instantly looks like the grand scion of all JRPGs, rather than “one of many JRPGs”. Its traditional approach to so many mechanics feels fresh and new because so many other RPGs seem so much less certain of their identity. DQXI, especially the Definitive with its 2D callback, feels immediately like a celebration of everything DQ, and I want to be here for all of it.

I love that I barely know anything about the story or characters, but I already love them. I’m already deeply invested. For example, I know the Luminary is surprised, goes to the castle,

 

is arrested, meets Erik, escapes,

begins the adventure.

Yet I have no idea why he’s really being

 

arrested, exactly why Erik was arrested (though I know he’s a thief),

exactly why they team up, how the Luminary decides what to do next, why Erik travels with this stranger, or what the goal is.

I know one thing about two characters that I kinda wish I didn’t know, but honestly I may have eventually noticed both of these points from just the title and opening scene, so I’m okay with it.

There’s also a mode of transportation I kinda wish I hadn’t known about before endgame,

 

but I’m very excited for it because FFIV (“II” in NA) was a defining moment for me as a kid!

I want to speculate and wonder and discuss, but I figure most everyone here has already actually played it, so we can’t really do that, unless there are others like me who haven’t actually played it yet?

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I don't know about others, but I certainly am coming fresh to this game. And boy, can I not wait for it! I've already preordered DQXIS, and I'm glad the wait is finally getting more bearable with the game only a little over a month away (although I won't be able to play until November). 

I actually learned about Dragon Quest two years ago when I saw some footage from the Japanese PS4 version of DQXI before it was announced for the West, and I immediately knew I wanted the game just because of how gorgeous it was. In this past year I've played DQI and DQII on mobile and just started DQIII just to familiarize myself with the series because I had heard that playing the original trilogy makes the game more enjoyable. I really had fun with DQII, and, while I was playing it, I would imagine battling monsters and roaming around the world in 3D. I just can't wait to go from the 2D sprite work to playing a beautiful console adventure.

I've almost caved into buying the PS4 version on multiple occasions just because it would've been more convenient to play in the summer time, and also because I'm a real sucker for the beautiful, lush look of the PS4 version. However, I just remind myself of how much new content is coming to the switch, and, from what I've seen from the E3 Treehouse gameplay, a video from Gamexplain and more, the Switch version looks like it hold up quite well to the PS4 version and seems like it runs smoothly, too.

Just like you, I think this is the most I've been excited for a game for some years (I've even had dreams about playing it lol), and I just can't wait to experience all that DQXIS has to offer. I'm also trying to avoid learning much about the game or reading/seeing spoilers of any kind, but some things are hard to avoid here and there. And just like you, while there are some things I know about the game/characters/etc that I wish I could forget about so that I could experience the game completely fresh, I still think I will have a great time. DQ in general, and DQXI  in particular, with its visual style, colorful vistas, lovable cast, and warm atmosphere just make it so appealing, and I really hope that playing through DQXIS will be like playing through a fairy tale. A while ago, I saw this gif online from some early area in the game (potential spoiler(not really) if you really don't wanna see anything about the game, but its just a video of Eleven riding his horse through a lush area) and it just looks so beautiful! From other bits of gameplay I've seen here and there, it seems like the game is just full of beautiful landscapes and views, and I just can't wait to finally be able to explore Erdrea. 

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I kinda wish there were more people gushing about their hype online, and I really hope DQXIS sells very well on the Switch, as I think the game has a greater potential audience on the Switch than it did on the PS4 imo. With exposure from Smash and some people's disappointment with SwSh, I think DQXIS really has the chance to be at least a 1-2 million seller in the West if it's marketed well and if the Switch version reviews well. I really hope Nintendo really goes full force with marketing this game as we get closer to the release date, but I'm a bit worried they may just be relying on Smash to market the game rather than their own trailers/tweets/etc (hopefully the trailer they released earlier this week is an indication that they plan on marketing it well, though) and I'm also worried that they might not want DQXIS to overshadow Link's Awakening, but because DQXIS comes out after LA, I think that may not be too much of an issue. So far, I'm happy to see all the positive comments on YouTube videos of DQXIS about people who are excited to try out their first DQ game, and I really just hope that this hype and the number of people who actually buy this game is tremendous by launch day. Thankfully, DQXI has good word of mouth, so hopefully that should convince even more people, on top of all the people interested in the game because of smash.

If you can't tell by the lengthy post, I'm really excited for this game, and I hope it will be for DQ what Awakening was for FE in the West.

 

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Wow, @Mr Thwack! Thank you! It is so nice to feel someone else’s hype! I’m feeling pepped up!

One of the things that amazes me about the Switch version is that in some side by side vids I’ve seen, I actually prefer Switch to PS4. You can really see and feel the ambition, investment, and commitment in every element of this game. That shot you posted is a good taste. And looking at it, I’m not immediately sure whether it’s captured from PS4 (I guess) or Switch commercials. That’s how good the Switch graphics look!

I really hope everyone in the world buys this game. I feel like the “Elusive Age” is the age of game developers approaching their craft with lofty ambitions and big hearts. You mentioned the dumpster fire that is the PR rollout for Pokémon Sword and Shield.  Man, that has just been a nightmare from a marketing perspective. Same with FFXV after all the canceled content and what looks like childishly unprofessional behind the scenes drama. All of this just underscores the value of a franchise like DQ that knows what it is, and is committed to delivering its identity experience at the highest level of quality and care.

I think a lot of FF and Pokémon fans are gonna give this a look, and I think they’ll like what they find. And I agree with you, the Switch, especially after the Smash buzz, may have even more momentum than the original releases. I just hope that Switch momentum maintains itself, and that the debate about the Hero tilts more toward, “This character is crazy fun and awesome!” as we get closer to the release of DQXIS. The timing of the demo release to piggyback off the Smash momentum will hopefully be “just right”.

I do wish it was out now, though. My last week of summer vacation. I want to play it right now!

 

EDIT: Okay, so watching these videos again, PS4 does have a definite edge in depth of field and dynamic/dramatic lighting. There also are more details. Though I only really noticed this on Erik’s jacket sleeve.

Still, the brightness and colors on Switch are very welcome, and there’s something about returning to the original JRPG on Nintendo hardware that strongly appeals to me. Also, I know prefer the convenience and intimacy of handheld gaming. It feels more like reading a novel than watching TV. I really cannot wait!

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, JustACorpse said:

I’m feeling pepped up!

Haha I see what you did there! But, yeah, I hope there's more people on this forum that can share their hype for the game so that we can all have a wave of excitement for DQXIS upon release.

13 hours ago, JustACorpse said:

One of the things that amazes me about the Switch version is that in some side by side vids I’ve seen, I actually prefer Switch to PS4. You can really see and feel the ambition, investment, and commitment in every element of this game. That shot you posted is a good taste. And looking at it, I’m not immediately sure whether it’s captured from PS4 (I guess) or Switch commercials. That’s how good the Switch graphics look!

Absolutely! The gif I included in my post was from the PS4 version, but I imagine that the same area in the Switch version will be just as as beautiful. Even though, as you mention later in your post, the PS4 does have more dynamic lighting and better textures (which is to be expected), the Switch version still looks phenomenal and is a visual treat, especially from the footage they showed in the Treehouse segment (like in the beach area), and it just might be one of the best looking games on the Switch. I think as long as someone hasn't played the PS4 or isn't comparing the Switch and PS4 versions side-by-side, someone playing on the Switch wouldn't notice many graphical disparities. The fact that DQXIS looks amazing, apparently runs well, and includes so much new content and QoL improvements is just a testament to the love, dedication, and effort that Horii's team put into making the Switch version, and that speaks volumes about DQ as a brand and is enough of a reason to buy and support the game imho. They could have easily just made a low quality port of the PS4 version that runs okay on the Switch and does not include any new features, but the fact that they evidently poured their hearts into making such a high qualitity Switch version is praiseworthy. 

Given the fact that Nintendo's major first party titles are generally known for their polished visuals and gameplay and their accessibility, I think DQXIS fits and would really appeal to a lot of Switch players if they give the game a shot. Especially for Pokemon fans like myself, who have been looking for a more ambitious adventure in each new title GameFreak puts out, but rarely get one, I think DQXIS has a lot of appeal. Like for someone who has been wanting to see more ambitious graphics, monsters roaming in the overworld, a controllable camera, the ability to ride/fly on many monsters, a more expansive world filled with different environments, and more in Pokemon games, DQXIS really checks all those boxes and more.  

As annoying as all of the "ban Hero" nonsense is in the Smash community, it really is just more free advertising for DQ. And from what I've read online, a lot of people find Hero a ton of fun to play as given his randomness. I mean, I certainly have a lot of fun playing as him! 

13 hours ago, JustACorpse said:

I do wish it was out now, though. My last week of summer vacation. I want to play it right now!

Haha, I'm in the same boat. I wish DQXIS came out earlier as my break is coming to an end, but I'm sure the wait for it will be more than worth it. Also, I'm so excited to play this game on the big screen and on handheld; this game will be the perfect way to wind down right before bed after a long day! 

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100+ hours beating the bonus boss on DQXI for PS4, but I'm 100% hyped for the Switch version. My plan is to play as much of the game as humanly possible on 2D mode. That'll feel like a whole new adventure for me. I'm someone who doesn't watch movies, tv shows, or play games more than once, but that doesn't apply to my DQ games! But I'd like this to feel fresh, so 2D all the way! Maybe I'll Switch out for newer things they're adding, but likely not!

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I haven't finished the post game in the Steam version of Dragon Quest XI, but I'm very hyped for Dragon Quest XI S. I'd probably play most of Dragon Quest XI S in 2D mode (with the exception of the new character scenarios).

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4 hours ago, Plattym3 said:

My plan is to play as much of the game as humanly possible on 2D mode.

This is my plan as well, cannot wait, I have taken the Monday off of work following release weekend to have more time to play.

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I’m going to stick with 2D mode as much as possible too. I liked it on the 3DS version, but it was REALLY hard to play without understanding the language. With the 3D mode I could tell what to do and what I earned a little easier; wasn’t the case in 2D mode.

I figure I’ll make a back up save as I go and whenever the new story scenes pop up I’ll view them in one save file or the other. Maybe have the other save be 3D mode and the first being 2D.

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I'll be playing the 2D version as well...I should finish the PS4 version first.

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I'll be playing the 2D version as well...I should finish the PS4 version first.
You should.

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10 minutes ago, Plattym3 said:
42 minutes ago, Bururian said:
I'll be playing the 2D version as well...I should finish the PS4 version first.

You should.

I'm workin' on it. Finally got the gusto to continue. I have 70 hours in the game and I only...

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I'm seriously contemplating whether or not I should resume the post-game sidequests, because there are so many. Or if I should wait until Dragon Quest XI S and replay the game again in 2D mode for the most part.

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I’m curious if I’ll hit the hour mark I did by the time I finished of DQ11 on my PS4. I think my time was at 210 hours when I finally defeated the Act 3 boss, earned the amazing credits for it and won the last story trophy & platinum trophy. The only things I didn’t do in the game was earn all the Accolades and unlock all the skills on each character’s skill panel. Only way to do the later was farm for skill seeds, but I don’t like farming for items in Dragon Quest games.

I’m guessing I’ll get around the same total playtime (if not lower since I know what to do) but I plan to take my time with the game again. DQ11 is such a good game that I’d hate to rush it.

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1 hour ago, YangustheLegendaryBandit said:

The only things I didn’t do in the game was earn all the Accolades and unlock all the skills on each character’s skill panel.

You are not missing out. Getting all accolades does nothing but give you another accolade, and grinding for the skill seeds was one hell of a painful grind. I felt like I wasted too much time on it.

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1 hour ago, Twinkie said:

You are not missing out. Getting all accolades does nothing but give you another accolade, and grinding for the skill seeds was one hell of a painful grind. I felt like I wasted too much time on it.

And that’s why I don’t like to farm for seeds

I figured there wasn’t going to be some kind of Accolade reward. I think I saw mention that you just earn a special accolade for getting all the others. I think the ones I didn’t get were casino related, mainly with the Slime game.

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22 hours ago, Mr Thwack said:

…I hope there's more people on this forum that can share their hype for the game so that we can all have a wave of excitement for DQXIS upon release.

Yes! I love seeing all these veteran players so excited about playing this game again, too, even as it requires a different system! That’s a huge signal of trusted endorsement.

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…I think as long as someone hasn't played the PS4 or isn't comparing the Switch and PS4 versions side-by-side, someone playing on the Switch wouldn't notice many graphical disparities. The fact that DQXIS looks amazing, apparently runs well, and includes so much new content and QoL improvements is just a testament to the love, dedication, and effort that Horii's team put into making the Switch version, and that speaks volumes about DQ as a brand and is enough of a reason to buy and support the game imho. They could have easily just made a low quality port of the PS4 version that runs okay on the Switch and does not include any new features, but the fact that they evidently poured their hearts into making such a high qualitity Switch version is praiseworthy. 

Hallelujah. I just want to keep repeating it. The thing that really sets this game apart is the visible, tangible investment of heart and talent on display. It’s clear that everyone is bringing everything they’ve got, not hedging so they’ve got something saved for future titles. Everyone is working like it’s the only game they’ll ever get to make, even Horii-sama, who of course knows better.

This does not seem to happen much with established franchises anymore. This kind of passion feels like everyone’s both first and last project. I will give ALL of my money, time, and vocal support to people who work like this, on projects designed to bring love and joy to the world.

And none of that is spin. Here’s an interview. Horii-san sounds much like he always sounds, and Uchikawa sounds much like “The Luminary”, the scion of a new age who deeply honors and respects his legacy. I see lots of mentions of Horii-sama, Toriyama-sensei, and Sugiyama. We need to keep Uchikawa’s name on our brains and on our lips, too. We all need to respect him as much as Horii-san does.

I’m probably gonna make a topic just for Uchikawa, but here’s the incredible article, where they both just splash love all over the room and flow it out to the world:

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-quest-of-a-lifetime-yuji-horii-and-takeshi-uch/1100-6461781/

 

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Especially for Pokemon fans like myself, who have been looking for a more ambitious adventure in each new title GameFreak puts out, but rarely get one, I think DQXIS has a lot of appeal. Like for someone who has been wanting to see more ambitious graphics, monsters roaming in the overworld, a controllable camera, the ability to ride/fly on many monsters, a more expansive world filled with different environments, and more in Pokemon games, DQXIS really checks all those boxes and more. 

I’ll try to resist the urge to dive too deeply here, but yeah:

DQ Team: Hm… We’ve made this really gorgeous PS4 game which required building everything from scratch and the largest and most detailed world we’ve ever created, but you know, a lot of DQ fans enjoy a handheld experience… Hey! Let’s make a 3DS game, too. It will require rebuilding the entire world, most of the characters, and many of the monsters from scratch in a different engine, but that sounds like fun, right? Fans will love it! And since we’re building a second 3D world anyway, why not rebuild it in 2D, too, just for kicks. The battle engine will look totally different and we’ll have to build sprites of every character and the entire world, but… Say, let’s add some of the classic titles, too, to introduce new players to our legacy! Did I say “some”? I mean ALL past numbered titles. It’s okay. Uchikawa is a first-time director; he has lots of energy! What’s that? We can make a Switch title that actually combines both our console and handheld visions? That’s awesome! Let’s be sure to put tons of extra content in it, too, especially specific things fans gave us feedback about, plus things they’d never have guessed. And let’s design a limited edition hardware unit, too! Plus some Voice Dramas!

Game Freak: Um… Sorry not sorry if Ultra Sun/Moon was your first-ever Pokémon game. You’re never going to experience bringing your team forward with you, even if you subscribed to Pokémon Bank. If you loved these games so much that you spent hundreds of dollars and lots of time cementing yourself as a Pokémon fan, that’s great. But we are just too busy and too tired and it’s too much work. Please understand. Also, don’t expect huge improvement in graphics, much if any change in models or animations, and get ready for a lot of similar character types and tropes from Generation 7. We made a neat LE hardware system, too. It’s the Lite, which has better battery life than old Switch, though lacks the namesake features. Oh wait… There’s a new iteration of Switch rolling out? It’s the same price as the old one, but has even better battery life than the Lite? That’s what they’re using for the third release of DQXI? Fans aren’t salty, they’re hyped? Oh. Oh, that’s great. Enjoy the first-ever mainline Pokémon game on a home console! Look at our passion! Buy both versions! And our LE Lite! Don’t forget! Not sorry! We will never apologize and we expect your understanding. And your money.

*Apparently I was unable to stop myself.

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As annoying as all of the "ban Hero" nonsense is in the Smash community, it really is just more free advertising for DQ. And from what I've read online, a lot of people find Hero a ton of fun to play as given his randomness. I mean, I certainly have a lot of fun playing as him! 

I actually love it. In addition to being, “He’s too random”, it also comes off like, “He’s so OP, magical, surprising, fun, and UNIQUE!” No matter how they actually feel about it, the conversation, as you say, is free awareness, and it’s mostly charged with astonishment, not vitriol, from what I’ve seen.

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Haha, I'm in the same boat. I wish DQXIS came out earlier as my break is coming to an end, but I'm sure the wait for it will be more than worth it. Also, I'm so excited to play this game on the big screen and on handheld; this game will be the perfect way to wind down right before bed after a long day! 

I’m still very afraid I’m no longer going to be able to live my real life, that I will be homeless with my Switch, just trying to survive long enough to finish experiencing the game. I honestly think it could take me years, plural. I have a busy life, and I want to savor the experience, especially taking lots of photos. I imagine there are gonna be some weekends this autumn/winter I just stay home, though, and barely sleep!

EDIT: Like several veterans, I’m also planning to save 2D for some future second playthrough. This is the first huge RPG that I’m going into planning to replay it. Speaking of, with the new Prayer/Password system, will it be possible to start a new game with all equipment and stuff? Broken, yes. But fun! And you can just choose not to use it…

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17 hours ago, YangustheLegendaryBandit said:

And that’s why I don’t like to farm for seeds

I figured there wasn’t going to be some kind of Accolade reward. I think I saw mention that you just earn a special accolade for getting all the others. I think the ones I didn’t get were casino related, mainly with the Slime game.

I am the kind of person who LOVES casino stuff in games. The Slime accolade just killed it for me. I think it took me about 20 hours to get it. Granted you really don't need to be actually playing it to get it. But the slime slot machine has such poor payout compared to everything else it made the grind even worse.

 

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You are right with the accolade thing. This is all you get for the countless hours of unnecessary grinding.

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I'm not sure if I can say I'll be fresh, as I recently beat the PS4 version. 

 

I am certainly excited though, and I ordered the game through the Den's amazon link so that was fun.

 

 

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I'll be refreshed by the time I play it. It's one of my favorite games but I also only need to finish VII on the 3DS to complete the entire series (minus X). I'll buy it day 1 to help with sales but I won't jump back into it right away since I'll be playing Ni no Kuni Remastered, which is the greatest game of all time.

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