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On 1/2/2020 at 8:41 PM, YangustheLegendaryBandit said:

If you plays games via Steam, I’d recommend playing Trails in the Sky that way.

Is Trials of the Sky a good way to start the series? Is it related to Trials of Cold Steel?

I bought Trials of the Sky several years ago and never played it.

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9 minutes ago, Twinkie said:

Is Trials of the Sky a good way to start the series? Is it related to Trials of Cold Steel?

I bought Trials of the Sky several years ago and never played it.

Yes. Sky and it’s sequels is a good place to start. After that would be Cold Steel or the other games who’s name escapes me as they both have fan translations.

The first games in Sky and Cold Steel move a little slowly, but they do a great job establishing characters, plot points, and the part of the world that game takes place in. Playing later games like Cold Steel, you’ll not only notice direct references to past games, but you’ll realize all of them are connected and how past games affect the future ones.

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23 hours ago, YangustheLegendaryBandit said:

Yes. Sky and it’s sequels is a good place to start. After that would be Cold Steel or the other games who’s name escapes me as they both have fan translations.

The first games in Sky and Cold Steel move a little slowly, but they do a great job establishing characters, plot points, and the part of the world that game takes place in. Playing later games like Cold Steel, you’ll not only notice direct references to past games, but you’ll realize all of them are connected and how past games affect the future ones.

Since we are getting into discussion about the series a bit, Yangus would you mind telling me a little about the series as a whole?

 

Is it a super linear JRPG? How are customization levels, party changes, etc? How is the Combat? Are there side quests or is it just a playable narrative?

 

What things did you like/dislike? 

 

...I'm trying to decide if I wanna dive into this thing because It's beginning to sound kinda fun to dig my PSP out and start from the beginning. 

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29 minutes ago, cprmauldin said:

Since we are getting into discussion about the series a bit, Yangus would you mind telling me a little about the series as a whole?

Is it a super linear JRPG? How are customization levels, party changes, etc? How is the Combat? Are there side quests or is it just a playable narrative?

What things did you like/dislike? 

...I'm trying to decide if I wanna dive into this thing because It's beginning to sound kinda fun to dig my PSP out and start from the beginning. 

I’ll do the best I can. I may not be the best source since I haven’t played every game, but I’m to answer your questions the best I can. I don’t know anything about the 3 PSP entries Platty posted about awhile ago, but those games (as far as I know) have absolutely nothing to do with the series from Trails in the Sky and onward, so I’m not going to be talking about those games.

 

-The Legend of Heroes: Trails games take place across three countries that are close to one another. Liberl is the country for the Sky games, Crossbell is the country for the Zero games (which are NOT in English but have fan translations), and Erebonia is the country for the Cold Steel games. Each country is located relatively close to one another, and chronologically the Sky games all take place first, while Zero and Cold Steel start about the same time with events that coincide with one another. For spoilers sake I won’t say how each game affects the other, but some events that may seem small can have a big impact on the others/future games. Even from playing Cold Steel 1 and not having played the fan translations for the Zero games, you can tell how one country’s problems affects the other. So story wise, while they can be a bit slow moving, the action and consequences do ramp up the further you go.

-The games usually star one or two major characters who are always in your party, with the remaining party members changing as you make progress throughout your journey across the countries. In Cold Steel for example, Rean Schwarzer is the main character and is joined by different class mates depending on where you go in the world. Each game uses a Chapter or Act narrative, so expect to have a new group for each Chapter. Chapters/Acts begin when you reach a new major location and end once all the issues there have been resolved. Some parts let you use any of the characters, but these are usually at the end of the game or in certain dungeons as you play. No need to worry about any characters falling behind though on levels or basic equipment though.

-Typically you move from territory to territory or town to town (depending on the game) as you progress, but you aren’t going to be able to go back to previous areas. So, the games are linear in that regard. However, the game will give you a warning whenever your actions will advance the plot further, and you have all the time you want to explore, battle, and do side quests before you hit these points. Don’t be afraid to make a back up save or two just in case you accidentally miss something and want to go back to finish a side quest you forgot.

-Combat is a highlight for the series. All combat is turn based and allows you to move around the battlefield. Being in front or behind enemies won’t make a big difference, but moving can let you get out of the way of certain attacks if one specific party member is targeted. This comes about when characters either use a Skill or Art. The former are special abilities that character can use, such as a special attack or a buff, which will use some CP (Charge Points). The latter, Arts, are essentially your spells for the game. Every character has an element(s) they are proficient with, but there is no penalty for equipping ones that they don’t specialize in. You earn Arts through Quartz, which you equip to your characters, and these Quartz will allow that character to use Fire Arts, Water, Earth, and so on. Different Quartz can give stat bonuses or passive skills, or in some cases have multiple Arts on them. It all depends on the ones you find and/or the ones you make.

 

I have to stop for now but will continue later.

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Awesome. So far, I'm intrigued, I look forward to reading further. 

 

And thank you!!

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5 hours ago, cprmauldin said:

Are there side quests or is it just a playable narrative?

What things did you like/dislike? 

...I'm trying to decide if I wanna dive into this thing because It's beginning to sound kinda fun to dig my PSP out and start from the beginning. 

Alright, continuing on....

Side quests are VERY relevant to the series. In the Sky games for example, your characters are Bracers, which are essentially assistants to help those in need with various kinds of jobs, from monsters to menial tasks to escort missions, and so on. These side quests, both the mandatory ones and the optional ones, really do a good job fleshing out the NPCs you meet or learning more about the area you are in, giving you a lot of world building from them. You are rewarded in various ways too, and at the end of a chapter/Act depending on how you did with completing them you’ll receive a greater reward. It’s a VERY good idea to do all that can, especially the optional ones, as you will earn a higher rank and earn some really good Quartz or equipment that can last for the entire game if you make good use of them.

Two things to note:

1. Optional side quests MUST be completed before you move on with the story. Once you reach certain points, you can no longer do any side quests you didn’t complete, so it’s highly advised to do all optional quests first and then do the mandatory ones. They are all marked as mandatory or optional, so it’s easy to see which is which.

2. Some NPCs will offer you a new side quest that isn’t listed with your others. These ones are easy to miss if you don’t speak to NPCs, so don’t be shy on talking to others.


As for things I like and dislike? There’s much more in the former. Characters, story, world building, music, combat, all the changing dialogue...it’s great, I totally love it. There’s some very well done writing throughout the series, with some chapters/acts of the games having some emotional or exciting stories. Cold Steel 1, while a slower moving game at first, became more and more interesting the further I went in. They are very good RPGs and if you enjoy games like Dragon Quest 7 you’ll likely enjoy Trails of games. There’s not much I don’t like.

The only things I can think of that I dislike are:

1. How you can accidentally miss out on certain items/accessories. At the end of the games you can earn some special rewards by collecting X of a certain special item or all the items from an accessory set, so you need to be vigilant and make sure you check item shops before you leave an area/finish a chapter.

2. Sometimes the boss fights can have a surprising difficulty spike. It’s nothing where you’re absolutely screwed, but some bosses can be tough. This is why you should make back up saves in case you need to go back and make some new Quartz or upgrade your gear, or reload the save before the boss and better prepare yourself since you’ll know what to expect.

3. A minor one, but sometimes having to re-check all the NPCs can be a pain in larger areas/towns. I like the changing dialogue, but the large towns and cities can take a while. It usually doesn’t bother me too much, but I figured I’d let you know just as a heads up.

 

So all in all, it’s a very good RPG series. I’m not a fast player of them (Platty can attest to that with how long it took me to finish the first Cold Steel since I waited till the PS4 version to finish it), but I’ve really enjoyed my time with the games. Just to emphasis it one more time, they are slower moving games, but they are well done games if you’re looking for a new RPG series to try out. You will get a full experience from each game and will find the ending making you curious to play the next chapter, but you won’t feel cheated or like you’re missing out on something.

I would definitely recommend the games, and if you want to start with Trails in the Sky 1 or Trails of Cold Steel 1 (or in your case Cold Steel 3 for convenience/times sake) then go with whatever works best for you. Just enjoy the ride and take your time, and don’t be afraid to give a guide a look just in case you don’t want to miss any side quests/special items.

Again, I’m probably not the best source for all this, but hopefully what I posted helps.

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On 1/7/2020 at 4:35 PM, YangustheLegendaryBandit said:

Alright, continuing on....

Side quests are VERY relevant to the series. In the Sky games for example, your characters are Bracers, which are essentially assistants to help those in need with various kinds of jobs, from monsters to menial tasks to escort missions, and so on. These side quests, both the mandatory ones and the optional ones, really do a good job fleshing out the NPCs you meet or learning more about the area you are in, giving you a lot of world building from them. You are rewarded in various ways too, and at the end of a chapter/Act depending on how you did with completing them you’ll receive a greater reward. It’s a VERY good idea to do all that can, especially the optional ones, as you will earn a higher rank and earn some really good Quartz or equipment that can last for the entire game if you make good use of them.

Two things to note:

1. Optional side quests MUST be completed before you move on with the story. Once you reach certain points, you can no longer do any side quests you didn’t complete, so it’s highly advised to do all optional quests first and then do the mandatory ones. They are all marked as mandatory or optional, so it’s easy to see which is which.

2. Some NPCs will offer you a new side quest that isn’t listed with your others. These ones are easy to miss if you don’t speak to NPCs, so don’t be shy on talking to others.


As for things I like and dislike? There’s much more in the former. Characters, story, world building, music, combat, all the changing dialogue...it’s great, I totally love it. There’s some very well done writing throughout the series, with some chapters/acts of the games having some emotional or exciting stories. Cold Steel 1, while a slower moving game at first, became more and more interesting the further I went in. They are very good RPGs and if you enjoy games like Dragon Quest 7 you’ll likely enjoy Trails of games. There’s not much I don’t like.

The only things I can think of that I dislike are:

1. How you can accidentally miss out on certain items/accessories. At the end of the games you can earn some special rewards by collecting X of a certain special item or all the items from an accessory set, so you need to be vigilant and make sure you check item shops before you leave an area/finish a chapter.

2. Sometimes the boss fights can have a surprising difficulty spike. It’s nothing where you’re absolutely screwed, but some bosses can be tough. This is why you should make back up saves in case you need to go back and make some new Quartz or upgrade your gear, or reload the save before the boss and better prepare yourself since you’ll know what to expect.

3. A minor one, but sometimes having to re-check all the NPCs can be a pain in larger areas/towns. I like the changing dialogue, but the large towns and cities can take a while. It usually doesn’t bother me too much, but I figured I’d let you know just as a heads up.

 

So all in all, it’s a very good RPG series. I’m not a fast player of them (Platty can attest to that with how long it took me to finish the first Cold Steel since I waited till the PS4 version to finish it), but I’ve really enjoyed my time with the games. Just to emphasis it one more time, they are slower moving games, but they are well done games if you’re looking for a new RPG series to try out. You will get a full experience from each game and will find the ending making you curious to play the next chapter, but you won’t feel cheated or like you’re missing out on something.

I would definitely recommend the games, and if you want to start with Trails in the Sky 1 or Trails of Cold Steel 1 (or in your case Cold Steel 3 for convenience/times sake) then go with whatever works best for you. Just enjoy the ride and take your time, and don’t be afraid to give a guide a look just in case you don’t want to miss any side quests/special items.

Again, I’m probably not the best source for all this, but hopefully what I posted helps.

This was a fantastic overview of everything, and exactly what I was looking for. 

 

I will AT LEAST be putting all of the Trails of Cold Steel games on my list, if not Cold Steel and Trails in the sky (need to look at pricing). 

 

Thanks again for this overview, and I'll be sure to be in touch when I get around to playing these games. 

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