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Not much more to add.  My computer went black and the hdd stopped spinning.

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1 hour ago, ignasia said:

Not much more to add.  My computer went black and the hdd stopped spinning.

Ooh, man. My old HDD went belly up about two years ago. I still hold onto it in the hope of someday being able to afford repair, but I doubt it. So I'm basically waiting until I have 2k to spare.

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My phone is ancient.  8 gb storage...7 years old LG that runs only dq1 2 and 3.  Sometimes with lag.  By some miracle I have my pc running.  Apparently windows 10 has almost no BLUE screens of death but instead a BLACK screen of death.

I'm backing my files up as I type this.  Next up bookmarks.  I haven't backed those up in a year.

I'm afraid to load Firefox as my pc crashes in sleep when it's running in the background since 2 major system updates. 

Having another problem with the card reader driver.  Can't get rid of it even after removing all traces I could find in the registry.

Took apart the laptop twice...unplugged what I could...cleaned what I could.  Want to know what "fixed" it?  Removing the damn DVD drive.  Yeah.  That reset the CMOS somehow...as there's literally no other way I could find on the board.  Nor any battery.

 

1 hour ago, JaybirdC said:

Ooh, man. My old HDD went belly up about two years ago. I still hold onto it in the hope of someday being able to afford repair, but I doubt it. So I'm basically waiting until I have 2k to spare.

I know how that goes.  I had to replace an hdd on my gaming laptop twice.  First time due to a head crash (windows Vista's lovely data integrity checks every time it's written to that I failed to turn off in time...so the hdd was already worn).

Second time the replacement drive was bad.

Lol...omg this is wild.

Did you ever try replacing the hdd?  Then running the other as backup so you can get your files off of it?  Or an external enclosure?

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Ok, so firefox is working, but it's a bit slow.  Everything's backed up, so tomorrow I'll reinstall this and several other programs to see if maybe it might be a registry error that triggered the Black screen event.

The scary thing about a Windows 10 BSOD unlike normal, is it actually prevents BIOS from loading, and often seems to ignore conventional rules (holding power 10 or 30 seconds, even standard CMOS flushing, or attempting to load bios).  Looks like a hardware failure or a graphics card failure, or a monitor failure, but it's something in the damn OS system.  Even seems like an HDD failure to boot, except for the BIOS not booting properly and nothing showing on the screen.  No mobo beeps either.  I guess Windows 10 is almost like a rootkit that runs in the background and loads before BIOS.  That's the only thing I can think of.

Really bloody creepy as all get out to get a black screen, no error message, and when loading the computer starts up, but doesn't go past a certain point, like the HDD loads up, but beyond the initial CPU and HDD loading, no other typical boot sounds, no standard reading sounds or loading sounds.  The light for running the computer never turns on either.  Yet the fixes are #$*!ing all over the place, and numerous other random events can seemingly trigger it.  Apparently surprisingly common since Windows 10, and sometimes repeats without any known causes, no diagnostics pulls up anything, it's not hardware specific as changing out the hardware makes no difference either.  Even reseating the CPU has no real impact...though at times these seemingly can work temporarily or permanently.

I'm closing this thread down.  Going to look for a new computer anyway, something basic.  This is 3 years old now, but has served me very well.

In anycase, thank god I somehow magically managed to get this running by dumb luck.  Board was clean too, no damage, no burns, no gunk, no corrosion, nada.

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6 hours ago, ignasia said:

Did you ever try replacing the hdd?  Then running the other as backup so you can get your files off of it?  Or an external enclosure?

As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure something's wrong with the heads -- it would click like mad. I sent it in to a specialist upstate who couldn't pull any data off of it, but was kind enough to give me a free replacement drive (in exchange for a 5-star review).

5 hours ago, ignasia said:

Yet the fixes are #$*!ing all over the place, and numerous other random events can seemingly trigger it.

Windows 10 is a nightmare OS, and it has so many hardware builds that there's basically no such thing as a universal fix. It's not quite Every Problem Is Unique, but it's pretty damn close.

Back in January I had to accept the Fall Creators Update, and it bricked my display. I couldn't even load my personal profile outside of Safe Mode, and ultimately had to ground-zero the whole thing back to Factory Settings.

I consider it the height of irony that my current laptop runs better than it ever did before the reset. Doesn't crash regularly, for starters.

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Iggy:

10 hours ago, ignasia said:

Not much more to add.

Also Iggy:

7 hours ago, ignasia said:

Ok, so firefox is working, but it's a bit slow.  Everything's backed up, so tomorrow I'll reinstall this and several other programs to see if maybe it might be a registry error that triggered the Black screen event.

The scary thing about a Windows 10 BSOD unlike normal, is it actually prevents BIOS from loading, and often seems to ignore conventional rules (holding power 10 or 30 seconds, even standard CMOS flushing, or attempting to load bios).  Looks like a hardware failure or a graphics card failure, or a monitor failure, but it's something in the damn OS system.  Even seems like an HDD failure to boot, except for the BIOS not booting properly and nothing showing on the screen.  No mobo beeps either.  I guess Windows 10 is almost like a rootkit that runs in the background and loads before BIOS.  That's the only thing I can think of.

Really bloody creepy as all get out to get a black screen, no error message, and when loading the computer starts up, but doesn't go past a certain point, like the HDD loads up, but beyond the initial CPU and HDD loading, no other typical boot sounds, no standard reading sounds or loading sounds.  The light for running the computer never turns on either.  Yet the fixes are #$*!ing all over the place, and numerous other random events can seemingly trigger it.  Apparently surprisingly common since Windows 10, and sometimes repeats without any known causes, no diagnostics pulls up anything, it's not hardware specific as changing out the hardware makes no difference either.  Even reseating the CPU has no real impact...though at times these seemingly can work temporarily or permanently.

I'm closing this thread down.  Going to look for a new computer anyway, something basic.  This is 3 years old now, but has served me very well.

In anycase, thank god I somehow magically managed to get this running by dumb luck.  Board was clean too, no damage, no burns, no gunk, no corrosion, nada.

Hahaha never change, dude.

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7 hours ago, Plattym3 said:

Could you imagine how long he'd be typing on his phone!? emoji33.png

He could break his posts down into smaller ones then become the highest poster in all the land :P

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He could break his posts down into smaller ones then become the highest poster in all the land
Sound like an interesting tactic. I'd know nothing of that though...
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7 hours ago, Plattym3 said:

Could you imagine how long he'd be typing on his phone!? emoji33.png

Hey, I’ve done that before when I’ve gone into Iggy-mode for certain posts. I’m sure it would be no problem for the real deal. 😘

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Well...a second black screen.  This one won't post...I may have to try unplugging and replugging the video card.  Though this might be permanent and I may have to kiss my dq11 and all the new dq7 work goodbye.  The reason being it bsod while installing an update.

Had spinning but no light for access...in up to here with MS.  Maybe I should use the cloud storage.

Apparently once it happens and if fixed it just keeps happening.  I would love to know why.  So temporary goodbye that hopefully lasts a few hours of hardware manipulation.  I do need a new computer though.

Cheers.

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Still down.  Going to leave the battery unplugged.  Tried messing with the board but it looks like a lot of plugs are soldered in or just really hard to jiggle.   I need to take everything apart and see...bloody frustrating.

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By dumb luck or fate...I got my computer running normally again.  Took draining the capacitors that function as the CMOS battery to reset.  Not smooth.  Ill have to fix the boot sector rebuild the boot file then reformat and reinstall.

Spoke too soon.  In process of fixing it happened again.

Repair disk won't load either.

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Yes!  Couldn't fix the boot record but opted for reinstallation.  32% and counting.

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Found the conflict.  Amd drivers. Reinstalled...had already done multiple restarts after reinstalling windows and bam. Same bloody problem on a fresh install.

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Amd drivers gone.  Problem seems to be gone.  I can finally post on my computer again, so that's nice.  I'll finish putting my computer back together in the morning.

Crossing my fingers I solved this.  I think I'll try another browser other than firefox this time, as there are conflicts, though minor, usually having to do with video.

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So far so good.  No problems since removing the AMD driver package.  At least Windows installs basic ones they "accepted" on their own ages back, though by golly do they take a long time...almost as long as the FDA.

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2 hours ago, Plattym3 said:

Good thing you saved the data!

I have it backed up again this time.  Unnecessary apparently, but better to do so now.  I'll just have to keep backing up every 10 days or so.

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Back at it again.  So in reading most situations once you get the Black Screen of Death it's essentially over.  Windows since 7, to maintain stability and avoid Blue screen crashes, creates a preboot that loads after cmos checks and simultaneously with bios.  Once that record is bad even replacing the he's does not always help...I have no clue why.  Maybe boards contain some nand flash in the bios where the MBR is stored?

In any case an hdd replacement doesn't help as I have extras so the MBR must be stored on board and either the physical space it is stored in is damaged or has degraded.  I already checked this the first time this happened.  Would not boot then.

Seems maybe constant sleep mode usage corrupts the MBR...and for win 10 its probably good to turn off hibernate and sleep when plugged in and run mbr and system stability and data corruption checks often....like 6 to 8 months.  

 

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Still nothing...time to get a new laptop.

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