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We've all seen a resurgence of retro games in the mainstream the past decade, how popular are the original 4 Dragon Warrior Games today amoung retro gamers and people interested and going back to play NES and SNES games? And where do people buy them/retro games if they are popular and buy them still today

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Every collector has I because it’s so easily obtainable. Hell, I have a near mint CIB copy, no basement smell or anything, that I got for like $15. I think it’s just missing a poster or something. II-IV are tough to find and they are very expensive but I wouldn’t call them sought after gems.

However, collectiblity does not mean they want it simply to play it. You’ll find that a lot of people will buy games regardless of quality to flesh out their collections. It’s quantity over quality more often then not. That’s just collectors though.

I wouldn’t call myself a collector and would like to play those games, but the GBA games are a better deal. People will spend $60 for brand new games but they won’t spend $40-50 on an old game that they want to just check out because they heard it was good.

And where do they buy them? EBay, game stores, LetGo, Facebook marketplaces, conventions, etc.

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I have all four Dragon Warrior games, out-of-box, in great condition. DW1 was my original copy from the Nintendo Power giveaway, and I still have one of the maps floating around.  The rest I bought off Amazon resellers years back, for about $30-$50 a piece without boxes.  They are all contained in good hard plastic clamshells authentic from the 80's, from my original NES collection.

If anyone's interested, here's an eBay search page for these things.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xdragon+warrior+nes.TRS0&_nkw=dragon+warrior+nes&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=dragon+warrior

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You know what, I’m just gonna ask: why are you so concerned about the popularity of the series, both former and future games? Yeah we all want DQXI to do well, but why is that the only thing you talk about?

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2 hours ago, YangustheLegendaryBandit said:

You know what, I’m just gonna ask: why are you so concerned about the popularity of the series, both former and future games? Yeah we all want DQXI to do well, but why is that the only thing you talk about?

I haven't been here in months

2 hours ago, YangustheLegendaryBandit said:

You know what, I’m just gonna ask: why are you so concerned about the popularity of the series, both former and future games? Yeah we all want DQXI to do well, but why is that the only thing you talk about?

Also why do you change your avatar every 5 mins

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To keep you on your toes.

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1 hour ago, muddy120 said:

I haven't been here in months

Also why do you change your avatar every 5 mins

Every time you make a topic it’s about popularity of the series or advertising. It’s fine you want to talk about it, I’m just curious why those are the only topics you make.

I had been using Sancho for most of June, but since I finished DQ5 I was trying to find something new (I use a character from the main game I’m playing). Now that I have the two Monsters 3DS remakes, it’s only fitting to have Tara and Cobi since those games will be my main focus.

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6 minutes ago, YangustheLegendaryBandit said:

Every time you make a topic it’s about popularity of the series or advertising. It’s fine you want to talk about it, I’m just curious why those are the only topics you make.

I had been using Sancho for most of June, but since I finished DQ5 I was trying to find something new (I use a character from the main game I’m playing). Now that I have the two Monsters 3DS remakes, it’s only fitting to have Tara and Cobi since those games will be my main focus.

You people here too touchy sometimes and make a big deal out of everything, I was just curious and made this topic nothing more nothing less, theres nothing to talk about, your overanalyzing. Let's just keep the thread on topic unlike that other thread we shall not name lol

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Not very

 

The Pornhub ads didn't get too much traction.

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1 hour ago, Plattym3 said:

Not very

 

The Pornhub ads didn't get too much traction.

And like a Dragon Quest game, that pub was intended.

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2 hours ago, muddy120 said:

Let's just keep the thread on topic unlike that other thread we shall not name lol

Other thread? This forum derails everything it can get its hands on.

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24 minutes ago, JaybirdC said:

Other thread? This forum derails everything it can get its hands on.

Yeah, it’s something like this.OTmq.gif

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4 hours ago, muddy120 said:

You people here too touchy sometimes and make a big deal out of everything, I was just curious and made this topic nothing more nothing less, theres nothing to talk about, your overanalyzing. Let's just keep the thread on topic unlike that other thread we shall not name lol

I think you're misreading Yangus.  He's not getting touchy.  Just a curiosity as you have to admit, you rarely participate in normal conversations the last year or so.  You used to way back, but now it's all this.

Plus, derailing is a standard procedure on most forums.

As to your quandary, it's difficult to guess.  Given the attention the series is getting now, it has a chance to pop out of the shadows it's been hiding in for some time, and I think it will shine.  It's a FAR more polished game than Ni No Kuni 2, with graphics that are far more appealing to a larger audience, as the style of cell shading lends it acceptance to realists, to people who prefer standard cartoony cell shading, and those who like CGI animation.  It has a lot of climbing elements without being an excessively large world, that will appeal to adventurous types.

For the rest of the series that depends.  It's very spread out amongst multiple consoles and given that, has likely a VERY wide larger more "casual" audience who have played 1 or 2 games in the series, but nothing else, or perhaps emulated earlier games for those introduced from 7 PSX onward.  It isn't like every Nintendo fan owned a Playstation after their NES and SNES, nor a PS2.  Nor those who owned a NES, a SNES or a PSX or a PS2 that owned a DS.  So the actual larger potential audience for those with some level of familiarity is rather wide and vast, and more so split between release windows, which are rather large between DQ releases here than they are in Japan (they get more gaidens in between...arcade games, loot, a damn bar, etc.).  So there's less to familiarize and reconnect our playerbase between releases.

Generally speaking, most people like the games whenever I get into conversations with players.  They're fairly straightforward, but it's hard to gauge as Videogame audiences are very split between sites or forum groups, or favourite game series.  Then there's life to factor in.  You have people with kids, work, etc., as the bulk of gamers are adults...and by bulk, I mean over 80% of all gamers are over the age of 25.  That's a lot of people with responsibilities in multiple areas of life that make it hard to keep track of games or play games, or reduce those growing backlogs.  Nevermind recalling older gaming experiences.

One glaring issue though is the dislike to like ratio, and the number of people who are vocal that tend to be of a negative opinion.  It's one thing to start a conversation about DQ games on a random forum, and get some responses, it's another when someone has a beef with a game, makes a post and starts a thread that draws in complainers like flies to fruit.  One can get the impression very easily that Dragon Quest VII is a much hated and maligned piece of trash.  However most ratings suggest the opposite, especially amongst genuine fans.  Even on Metacritic, you see DQ's score fairly well overall, and like most gamers, the split is usually between those who score a 0 and those who score a 10, because somehow anything less or more is unreasonable!  Which is hilarious when reading a 0~3 rating, and there's ONE complaint, but somehow that was enough to kill a game.  Or a 10, and there are numerous imperfections cited, but they love it, so...10.

If we're going to judge general sentiment, I'd say DQ as a series is generally well received and well liked.  Even many who hate a particular game often cite other games in the series they DO like very much.  Like DQ7 gets a lot of flack from DQ8 fanboys who wanted a more focused narrative, less of the massive vignettes.  Or DQ6 gets a TON of flack from DQ5 fans who wanted the Murdaw storyline to repeat or something more substantial to feel like they're not just wandering aimlessly.  At the same time, there are generally far more likes for the very things people complain about, meaning that the complaints are not focused on elements in Dragon Quest that are actually trash, but may be poorly handled or could use some work, or are simply divisive in some way despite being well done, leaving some people to find something that is generally well designed aggravating due to some personal issue.  Maybe it's a comparison with how another game did the same thing only used some other mechanic, or provided a distinct story angle, or utilized a particular piece of equipment differently.  Something that they prefer that the DQ version they feel is lackluster or they just really wanted that additional element or different method and can't get over the lack of it or something similar and for some reason can't accept the implementation as is.  What I'm saying is, what I find in most distaste over DQ's are two things:

1) Personal quirks.
2) Boredom at times due to things like pacing or lack of direction, which are based on #1, as most people seem to like these very same elements.  A few exceptions that are universal issues due to actual poor implementation, like DQ6 immediately following Murdaw and the lack of direction the game gives the party in terms of a larger purpose and motivation...it's there but it does a VERY poor job defining it.

Does that answer your question?

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5 hours ago, Plattym3 said:

Not very

 

The Pornhub ads didn't get too much traction.

I saw an ad for DQXI on Xhamster. Its in with the water sports section.

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18 minutes ago, redneckpride4ever said:

I saw an ad for DQXI on Xhamster. Its in with the water sports section.

Seriously?! That’s hilarious you saw an ad there! 😂

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I still have my original 4 NES carts and as of about two years ago the battery saves still worked from the late 80s/early 90s, when they were originally released. I backed my original NES saves all up using the Retron 5, and then 6 months into owning that POS hardware crapped out on me. Good to see the carts lasted way longer, though.

I lost my DWII map and beat the hell out of my DWIII map (what do you expect? I was 12.) The one thing I do have in really good condition is my Tokuma guide for DWIV, the one you send-away for. However, instead of photocopying it, I cut the back out of my DWIV booklet for the send away for the guide (again...my excuse is that I was 12.)

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As far as popularity, the "retro" titles are pretty popular on eBay and such, but they are quite dated. People go for the mobile releases more.

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4 hours ago, Liamland said:

I still have my original 4 NES carts and as of about two years ago the battery saves still worked from the late 80s/early 90s, when they were originally released. I backed my original NES saves all up using the Retron 5, and then 6 months into owning that POS hardware crapped out on me. Good to see the carts lasted way longer, though.

I lost my DWII map and beat the hell out of my DWIII map (what do you expect? I was 12.) The one thing I do have in really good condition is my Tokuma guide for DWIV, the one you send-away for. However, instead of photocopying it, I cut the back out of my DWIV booklet for the send away for the guide (again...my excuse is that I was 12.)

Heh.  I gave away my original DW games to a friend to borrow.  He was a really good friend...gave me my first normal job.  In anycase, he left town and we weren't able to work out a schedule to meet up, so likely he still has them.  I repurchased 3 and 4 quite some time back, but I have yet to repurchase 1 and 2.

I have the two DW1 booklets.  The basic one that came with the game, and the special booklet that acts as a guidebook that Nintendo provided in the special giveaway.  Still both in good condition.  The card with the levels is pristine.  However the dungeon maps with the empty-armour poster on the front is ripped and coming apart at the seems, and the overworld map with enemy placement is almost completely split into their individual rectangles.  I also have the original Nintendo Power full-sized guidebook they printed and that came with the edition that first introduced Dragon Warrior.  That's still packed up though, and will be until I can buy a house of my own.

I have the original DW2 booklet, though the back and front are long-since gone.  The map is still there, but it's torn at the seems in some parts, but mostly held together.  I can still unfold it in mid-air and not worry about it ripping apart.  I also have the Dragon Warrior II unveiled secrets book!  That is fun to have.  It's the only guide they made for the game, and it really does uncover most of the bugs, like the Waterflying Clothes bug.

I actually have two copies of Dragon Warrior III's booklet and map.  The original one I had, and one I had my father track down because I nearly destroyed mine, and I replayed that game FAR more often than any other game in history...I'd wager 300x at least.  I'm a total DW3 whore.  The funny thing is the book I received from the gamer who no longer wanted it still has the back, but both copies the front is ripped off.  My original is in overall better shape though (fewer folds, better internal condition per page), and the second page of my original is a midnight blue, while the other is sea blue, but there's no sign of fading or sun damage it's just a different colour in print.  All the other colours match.  The maps are...even the other one is tearing up, but at least it's tearing at intersections in the folds, not the centers, while the other is literally falling apart, lol.  I should laminate it.

DW4.  I have the Tokuma as well, but I never had to sacrifice my book for it.  I had my parents call in to order it.  Maybe because my father was always on the phone with agents and studios.  Glad I didn't decide to cut and write in the information.  I still have that book packed away, but I did cut out the map/equipment chart from it so I could use it independently.  That's sitting right next to me.  I loved that booklet too.  Tokuma made a simple but easy to follow guide.  My original two maps though...egads.  They still exist, but unfolding them...they are in the same poor shape as my original DW3 map, and one section of folds is literally hanging together by the smallest amount of paper.

I miss those days of games coming out with complete maps, complex booklets filled with art and corney but helpful language.  I guess by the SNES era they had things pinned down to cut-and-dry to the point language on what to do, while still keeping the unique charm.  Now it's entirely to the point and nothing more.  No special artwork either, no maps for your kids to rip up, as they not-too-carefully unfold and lay out on the table in between the couch and tv.  I really miss those days.

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6 hours ago, YangustheLegendaryBandit said:

Seriously?! That’s hilarious you saw an ad there! 😂

No dude, I was just adding onto Platty's Pornhub statement.

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3 hours ago, redneckpride4ever said:

No dude, I was just adding onto Platty's Pornhub statement.

Ah damn, I should have known! I had a hectic afternoon yesterday, so when I read your post my brain was kinda on the fritz.

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21 hours ago, YangustheLegendaryBandit said:

Ah damn, I should have known!

You can feel the disappointment oozing from Yangus' post. Now he has one less excuse to go exploring.

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