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So I'm considering importing a 3DS.

 

For $400 I can get a special edition 3DS that comes with DQM1R.

http://www.play-asia.com/nintendo-3ds-dragon-quest-monsters-terry-no-wonderland-3d-editio-paOS-13-49-en-70-4k89.html

 

 

Or I can get DQM1R on it's own for $64 -- holy crap -- and a standard 3DS for $200.  A 3DS LL is only $20 more.

http://www.play-asia.com/Nintendo_3DS_Cosmo_Black/paOS-13-71-188-49-en-70-3ry2.html

http://www.play-asia.com/dragon-quest-monsters-terry-no-wonderland-3d-paOS-13-49-en-70-4k88.html

 

(As an aside:  Why is DQM1R so freaking expensive!?)

 

So that ends up being what, $20-40 for a DQ themed paintjob that I wouldn't want to ever risk using?

 

Alternately, I could get a standard 3DS and add one of these:

 

http://www.play-asia.com/dragon-quest-monsters-terry-no-wonderland-3d-sticker-for-nintend-paOS-13-49-en-70-4r4b.html (Sticker)

http://www.play-asia.com/dragon-quest-monsters-terry-no-wonderland-3d-protect-case-for-ni-paOS-13-49-en-70-4r3x.html (Case)

 

Still alternately, I could just go through Amazon:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Quest-Monsters-Wonderland-Nintendo-3DS/dp/B0079VGJ5S/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1375512793&sr=8-5&keywords=Dragon+Quest+Monsters

 

$255 for a combo bundle, ice white 3DS and DQM1R.

 

 

 

My question actually becomes one of eShoppage -- Are the DQ games on the Japanese 3DS eShop, or will I need to import say, DQ7 and Slime Mori Mori 3?

 

 

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Can you even read Japanese?

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Personally I'd go with Amazon. I'll let others with more eShop knowledge answer your questions.

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Can you even read Japanese?

DQ is pretty playable even without speaking Japanese.

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I can't see how. I wouldn't enjoy mindlessly grinding not being able to read what was going on.

 

's why I don't import. :| (( Well, import JP games. When I first had a PSP I imported Tales of Eternia EU and Breath of Fire 3 EU which never came here. Excellent titles. ))

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Can you even read Japanese?

DQ is pretty playable even without speaking Japanese.
True. I've played and beaten:

Joker 1

Itadaki Street DS

DQV DS

 

All in Japanese, all without knowing a thing.

 

But I see Ryu's point, I wouldn't pay $200 to do so.

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I can read the Kana, and know Japanese grammar (although I'm rusty) -- although Kanji and vocabulary completely elude me.

 

But honestly, I could recipe DQM1's story on a paper napkin in my sleep at this point.  I don't NEED to be able to read it perfectly to do it.

 

I just don't know if $180 for a Japanese 3DS is worth being able to play DQM1, DQM2, DQ7, Slime Mori Mori 3...

 

Hm.

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although Kanji and vocabulary completely elude me.

This is exactly my own little brick wall. Not so much the Kanji itself (written part), but vocabulary, which is funny because I thought it would be the easiest. Well, it is easy, but now I have to memorize more words than all the kana combined (obviously). Luckily, I think about 1000 words is enough to start identifying new words on my own. At least learning Kanji is technically the same as learning new vocab, so two birds - one stone.

 

As for the 3DS, I would go for the XL(LL). I prefer the bigger screen. Also, while something like $300 may not seem justifiable for "just playing" a game, I would consider it as supplement for practicing Japanese. The more you see and read Japanese, the better, and the bigger screen certainly helps.

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although Kanji and vocabulary completely elude me.

This is exactly my own little brick wall. Not so much the Kanji itself (written part), but vocabulary, which is funny because I thought it would be the easiest. Well, it is easy, but now I have to memorize more words than all the kana combined (obviously). Luckily, I think about 1000 words is enough to start identifying new words on my own. At least learning Kanji is technically the same as learning new vocab, so two birds - one stone.

 

As for the 3DS, I would go for the XL(LL). I prefer the bigger screen. Also, while something like $300 may not seem justifiable for "just playing" a game, I would consider it as supplement for practicing Japanese. The more you see and read Japanese, the better, and the bigger screen certainly helps.

 

 

Have you looked into Heisig's books?  I keep trying to go through them to learn the Kanji but life gets in the way:

http://www.amazon.com/Remembering-Kanji-Complete-Japanese-Characters/dp/0824835921/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1375562506&sr=1-1

 

There's some discussion on RtK here:

http://kanji.koohii.com/

http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=1958

 

RtK works well with AJATT, which is apparently the best way to learn Japanese.  AJATT is also known as "Deep immersion learning", which is a very real thing (and why your language professors like to make you speak in the language you're learning).:

http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/get-nutshell

 

Anyway, does anyone know if DQM1R / DQ7R have Furigana?  That might make getting them worth it.

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I never had a problem with playing Terry in Japanese, although VII eluded me so I had to use a guide to even get passed the first areas. I'd buy one if you're really desperate like I was.

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I have the Heisig PDFs from Hiragana, Katakana, and Kanji 1. I've only really used the kana ones, and its a great method, though honestly I learned better just memorizing the kana itself. Currently reading stuff like children's story books to get used to the grammar, but every now and then Kanji shows up and I end up learning it because of the context. I'd rather polish my grammar and pronunciation first before learning the Kanji alone, otherwise I'll be stuck with Kanji that I don't know where to use.

 

I am currently using these, aside from making everything available to me Japanese related, even eating most things with chopsticks to keep me in check :P :

 

Story books:

http://life.ou.edu/stories/

 

Japan TV backlog of recent live shows:

http://youtubeowaraitv.blog32.fc2.com/

 

Japan Radio: 

http://www.surfmusic.de/country/japan.html

 

I also use NTK TV service that provides a 10 day backlog of all channels from the Kanto region. Shows are uploaded an hour after they air, so I use this when I want to see the most recent backlogs, but they are in low resolution. 

 

I never got the whole AJAAT thing other than "do everything in Japanese" which is what I am already trying to do. I use yesjapan.com for practice as well. I have a whole lot more resources, but these are the main ones.

 

Oh and Rosetta Stone is crap. Can work as a supplement, but it's not worth the $300+ I didn't spent.

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I know for sure that DQ7 is on the eShop, I've seen somebody downloading it in a YouTube video (it was a "'Digital Unboxing' and Review" video, uploaded about 5~6 hours after the game's release in Japan, though it was an imported JP DS. Don't know how he got on the eShop though, possibly a VPN. (it's IP region locked)).

 

I don't know about the others.

 

Speaking of DQ7, I've been playing DW7 PSX all day today...

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God damnit, the Japanese eShop is IP locked?  You're kidding me.

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God damnit, the Japanese eShop is IP locked? You're kidding me.

After DQX, are you surprised? :-(

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According to the PA forums, this isn't the case, Japanese 3DS can connect to Japanese eShop even in the US, and US credit cards work just fine.

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I'll be doing the same next year. Several imports I want. I've already decided to take the Rassias immersion program for Japanese.

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Rassias immersion program?

 

Also:  DQ7 has Furigana.  Wow.  DQM1R doesn't, which confuses me, but...  DQ7.  Hm.

 

Edit:  Actually, the DQM1R font is...  rather obviously spaced so that Furigana COULD be displayed.  I wonder if it's optional or something?

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what is furigana? I've never hear of that one. (I've heard of kana, kanjii, and romajii.)

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what is furigana? I've never hear of that one. (I've heard of kana, kanjii, and romajii.)

furigana is hiragana written above kanji for those who can't read kanji.

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Ah... Sounds useful.

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What DQ games, if any, are on the eShop anyway?

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^I believe just DQVII at this point. Hopefully the rest will be added soon...

 

Funny I see this topic today, as I just bought a Japanese 3DS and a (used) copy of DQMTW3D on Amazon today. Really stoked!

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NO, it's not IP locked..  

 

DQ7, DQM1, and DQWars are on there

 

THe mini app for DQX is there

 

DQM2 will be on there, guaranteed

 

What will not be on there?  (At least not yet) -- The camera/card scanner app for DQMVictory for Wii.  THat was only for the DSi and SEJ said it isn't on there.  Now maybe it's just not on there because they haven't taken the time to put it there, or if there's a mechanical difficulty in doing it (can't see how) but so far it isn't there.

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So my copy of DQM1 will be here tomorrow.

 

Unfortunately I waited about 30 minutes too long to decide, so my import 3ds won't be here until next week.

 

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