Pokemans!

[Stepchan 192]

I've actually decided to go for Lapras later this week since it can be obtained sooner than Shellder(I'm taking my time at the moment anyway).

[eal 2,695]

Had ridiculous luck in Pokémon Pinball. I had kind of resigned myself to never being able to complete the Dex, but now I'm not so sure. I might actually be able to do it. Kyogre, Metagross and a couple other three-stage evolutions, and Jirachi, which is pure luck. I still have a bit of a climb ahead of me, but I knocked out some of the tougher Pokémon.

[Stepchan 192]

I can't wait to get Fly, it will make Apricorn Farming alot easier. Next up is Lapras after midnight(I have to go by the DS clock, since it's not set to Daylight Savings Time).

 

Minor Scout team update:

 

Scyther - Cutman

Male

Nature: Gentle

 

Side note: The first one I caught had Technician, so awesome! Cutman is my top favorite robot master from Mega Man, so I named it after him.

Edited August 24, 2017 by Stepchan

[Stepchan 192]

I have the fifth gym cleared, grinded on Voltorb Flip for a Thunderbolt TM. I'm never playing that annoying game ever again.

 

I'm now grinding for the sixth gym.T

 

Team update:

 

Bayleef - Mabel

Female

Nature - Modest

Ability - Overgrow

 

Flaaffy - Jerin

Female

Nature - Bold

Ability - Static

 

Hercross - Videl

Female

Nature - Quirky

Ability - Guts

 

Espeon - Cleo

Female

Nature - Bold

 

Growlithe - Garth

Male

Nature - Lonely

Ability - Flash Fire

 

Note: Caught after getting Eevee and before the Burnt Tower and fourth gym. Leveling him up until he knows Flamethrower and Crunch. Named after Garth from Alpha and Omega.

 

Lapras - Lapis

Female

Nature - Naughty

Ability - Water Absorb

 

Note: Kind of funny how my last two mons ended up with abilities that grant immunity like that. She's named after the same character from Steven Universe.

 

Scout Team:

 

Furret - Lars

Male

Nature - Impish

Ability - Keen Eye

 

Note: Packs Cut, Headbutt, Rock Smash and Surf

 

Noctowl - Bubo

Female

Nature - Calm

Ability - Insomnia

 

Note: My flyer, she helped in the main team until the fourth gym(She was a massive help against Gengar).

 

Butterfree - Dipper

Male

Nature - Quirky

Ability - Compound Eyes

 

Note: My Sleep Powder and Stun Spore slinger.

 

Scyther - Cutman

Male

Nature - Gentle

Ability - Technician

 

Note: The master of holding back using False Swipe. Lucked out getting it's best ability.

 

Togetic- Rhys

Male

Nature - Quirky

Abiltiy - Hustle

 

Note: Knows Flash and Rock Smash. Named him after the first generation main character in Phantasy Star III(Admittedly a random decision).

Edited August 27, 2017 by Stepchan

[gooieooie 277]

*shudder*

 

My sincerest apologies, Stepchan. Voltorb Flip is a torture nobody should have to go through.

[eal 2,695]

Bumping into Latios and Latias in Pokémon Pinball is a 1% chance, so I was lucky to encounter Latios. Last major obstacle is Latias and Rayquaza, who is exceptionally hard to catch, considering how long you need to play before you can catch him.

 

My Dex is at 120+ now.

[Stepchan 192]

*shudder*

 

My sincerest apologies, Stepchan. Voltorb Flip is a torture nobody should have to go through.

 

If I remember right, Voltorb Flip became a thing because of the Europe's rating systems marking simulated gambling as 18+. Yes, Pokemon was in danger of getting a rating equal to the dreaded AO rating at the time.

 

Because of this, I do at least understand why they had to make a change. I just wish they could have thought of something other than a minesweeper style game. The highest I cleared was level 6(8 is the highest level).

 

Voltorb Flip would be more tolerable if it's payout was a better overall(getting around 27-54 tokens at level 1 isn't that great. around 100 would have been better for a starting level) or the prizes costed less.

[gooieooie 277]

Yeah, and the rating change happened after the Japanese release; Japanese copies of HGSS actually have a traditional Game Corner, with slot machines and all. The change happened during localization only.

 

It wasn't 18+, though; it's actually only 12+. The Red, Blue, and Yellow VC releases, and more recently, the Gold and Silver VC releases, all received ratings of PEGI 12+. I guess they want to keep the series going at the general "everyone" rating, so they phased it out.

 

It was sad to see that the Game Corner existed, but was closed down in ORAS.

[Sword_of_Dusk 380]

It's like GF doesn't actually know, or acknowledge, the general age range of the playerbase. It isn't just young kids anymore, and hasn't been for quite some time.

[Neofrodo 91]

The anime started to recognize it starting with 5th Gen. And especially 6th Gen.

Dose romantic moments. ; )

[eal 2,695]

It's like GF doesn't actually know, or acknowledge, the general age range of the playerbase. It isn't just young kids anymore, and hasn't been for quite some time.

Just because it isn't just young kids anymore doesn't mean it isn't meant for young kids in the first place.

[Neofrodo 91]

Uhh Young kids still watch the anime. Even tho some more older themes are brought into it.

You CAN make things for All ages yknow.

[Sword_of_Dusk 380]

 

It's like GF doesn't actually know, or acknowledge, the general age range of the playerbase. It isn't just young kids anymore, and hasn't been for quite some time.

Just because it isn't just young kids anymore doesn't mean it isn't meant for young kids in the first place.

Never said it wasn't, so what are you getting at?

[eal 2,695]

Nothing?

[Plattym3 2,589]

Uhh Young kids still watch the anime. Even tho some more older themes are brought into it.

 

You CAN make things for All ages yknow.

Disney does that well with a lot of jokes in their movies for us adults!

[eal 2,695]

 

Uhh Young kids still watch the anime. Even tho some more older themes are brought into it.

 

You CAN make things for All ages yknow.

Disney does that well with a lot of jokes in their movies for us adults!

They gotta pump out weekly episodes and they've been doing it for like 20 years. The writing can only be so good with that kind of crunch. Earlier episodes had a lot more going on then the ones coming out in the last 10 years.

[Stepchan 192]

All eight of the Johto gyms are cleared. Never been all that found of Clair. Making you have to go out of the way just to prove you earned your victory.

 

Yeah, and the rating change happened after the Japanese release; Japanese copies of HGSS actually have a traditional Game Corner, with slot machines and all. The change happened during localization only.

 

It wasn't 18+, though; it's actually only 12+. The Red, Blue, and Yellow VC releases, and more recently, the Gold and Silver VC releases, all received ratings of PEGI 12+. I guess they want to keep the series going at the general "everyone" rating, so they phased it out.

 

It was sad to see that the Game Corner existed, but was closed down in ORAS.

 

I'm confused, because of this:

 

The replacement of slot machines with Voltorb Flip was likely due to stricter PEGI guidelines which required that any game deemed to "encourage or teach gambling" be classified 18, which had previously caused the replacement of slot machines with game machines in European versions of Pokemon Platinum.

 

Source:

 

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Voltorb_Flip#Replacement

 

Does 18 mean 12+ in Pegi? Because that sounds rather odd.

[gooieooie 277]

Hm, that is strange. The PEGI 12 rating for the Gold and Silver VC releases can be seen in this article, which has a picture of their Europe special physical releases:

 

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/08/18/pokmon-gold-silvers-virtual-console-release-will-get-packaged-versions-europe/

 

Similarily, Red, Blue, and Yellow's PEGI ratings can be found on their site:

 

http://www.pegi.info/en/index/global_id/505/?searchString=pokemon

 

So either Bulbapedia is incorrect on what the rating would be bumped to, or it would've been PEGI 18 at the time of HGSS's release, and the regulations on the gambling aspects have since been lowered from PEGI 18 to PEGI 12.

 

 

[Stepchan 192]

Caught Ho-oh yesterday, in a Love Ball of all things. It kept breaking out of the best balls I could use at the time(Ultra, since it wasn't night), so I started throwing different balls at it.

 

Went through Victory Road and am now leveling for the Elite 4.

 

Hm, that is strange. The PEGI 12 rating for the Gold and Silver VC releases can be seen in this article, which has a picture of their Europe special physical releases:

 

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/08/18/pokmon-gold-silvers-virtual-console-release-will-get-packaged-versions-europe/

 

Similarily, Red, Blue, and Yellow's PEGI ratings can be found on their site:

 

http://www.pegi.info/en/index/global_id/505/?searchString=pokemon

 

So either Bulbapedia is incorrect on what the rating would be bumped to, or it would've been PEGI 18 at the time of HGSS's release, and the regulations on the gambling aspects have since been lowered from PEGI 18 to PEGI 12.

 

Admittedly, putting gambling up that high is pretty silly regardless of if it were the case or not. I know gambling and Lottery require someone to be of legal age in real life, but still.

 

It's not like it's Manhunt(I remember the sequel getting an AO rating which caused them to censor it since AO pretty much means it might as well not exist) or the Grand Theft Auto series(The latter I know being M rated, but remember the Hot Coffee mod from the dummied out data in the San Andreas, that forced them to removed it or else it would have given from the AO rating).

 

I find the rating AO to be pretty funny, much like the movie rating NC-17. This is because the X rating gets used a lot more often than them.

Edited September 4, 2017 by Stepchan

[eal 2,695]

Startlingly good luck in Pokémon Pinball. After catching Latios, I decided to only focus on the Sapphire board in the off chance I manage to catch a Latias while also trying to complete the rest of the Dex. First time back I pick the Sapphire board and BOOM. Latias. Like the third Pokémon I encounter. A 1% chance for both of them, the two I thought I'd be least likely to catch, and I've got them both.

 

Rayquaza still stands in my way and, naturally, my new problem is catching the same Pokémon I already have so I might have to start keeping track of which Pokémon can be caught where and which ones I need. Luckily the manual has that info available for me.

[eal 2,695]

Whenever I start playing a game super half-assed, it ends up being my best run with it to date. You know, when you're just like, "maybe I'll get a feel for the final boss before I fight him for real. Oh, wait. I just beat him." That kind of thing. So I've been on the Sapphire board for like three hours with only like one life left just endlessly catching Pokémon, whether I need them or not. At first I was just trying to end it since I had a bad start and went down to my final life in half an hour. Then, 28 Pokémon later I catch Rayquaza...

 

Now all that's left for any sort of challenge are the starters and their evolutions and maybe 40 random Pokémon and then Pokémon Pinball will be completed.

[Sword_of_Dusk 380]

I applaud you for your endeavor, as I never attempt to complete the Pokédex in mainline Pokémon games, and I'd never even think of trying in Pokémon Pinball.

 

I have fully filled in one Pokédex throughout the years, and that was in Pokémon Yellow. Had everyone registered, including Mew.

[eal 2,695]

It's actually not too tough. Just lots of luck. It just sounds hard because when playing mainline games you have it in your head that catching, say, Salamence is gonna be hard, but it's just as as easy evolving an Azumarill in Pokémon Pinball. Most of the legendaries are easy too. Rayquaza is just an endurance test and Latios/Latias are total luck, as is Jirachi sort of.

[Duran 68]

It's actually not too tough. Just lots of luck. It just sounds hard because when playing mainline games you have it in your head that catching, say, Salamence is gonna be hard, but it's just as as easy evolving an Azumarill in Pokémon Pinball. Most of the legendaries are easy too. Rayquaza is just an endurance test and Latios/Latias are total luck, as is Jirachi sort of.

 

And in Gen 6-7 it's even easier to catch them all, thanks to Pokemon Bank

[Stepchan 192]

Ready for the Elite 4 now. Also found out that Arcanine can't learn Earthquake from the TM. Considering that Meganium can learn it, that's pretty odd.

 

Team Penny:

 

(All of them are at level 48)

 

Meganium - Mabel

Female

Ability - Overgrow

Nature - Modest

Item - Miracle Seed

Moves - Petal Dance, Magical Leaf, Return, Earthquake

 

 

Ampharos - Jerin

Female

Ability - Static

Nature - Bold

Item - Magnet

Moves - Thunderbolt, Discharge, Signal Beam, Rock Smash

 

Heracross - Videl

Female

Ability - Guts

Nature - Quirky

Item - Black Belt

Moves - Close Combat, Brick Break, Night Slash

 

(I recently deleted Strength, since it's not as badly needed post game, just waiting to learn Megahorn now)

 

Espeon - Cleo

Female

Ability - Synchronize

Nature - Bold

Item - Shell Bell

Moves - Psybeam, Confusion, Shadow Ball, Swift

 

Arcanine - Garth

Male

Ability - Flash Fire

Nature - Lonely

Item - Charcoal

Moves - Flamethrower, Flame Wheel, Crunch, Dig

 

(I'm happy I lucked out getting a Fire Stone before the E4)

 

Lapras - Lapis

Female

Ability - Water Absorb

Nature - Naughty

Item - Nevermelt Ice

Moves - Surf, Waterfall, Ice Beam, Body Slam

 

Minor update on the Scout team:

 

Gyarados - Sangria

Male

Ability - Intimidate

Nature - Quirky

Sidenote - Yeah, this is the shiny Gyarados you can catch in game, I taught him all the water HMs and Strength.

 

Psyduck - Dingus

Female

Ability - Damp

Nature - Brave

Sidenote - Lucked out getting one good for countering exploders.