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#1 RPG Wizard

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:18 PM

Okay, so supposedly, every fight after 200, you had a chance of fighting Nemeslime to scout him. This is blatantly false.

Also supposedly, every interval of 10 after 200, you could get Nemeslime. Perhaps this is true.

The percentages of getting him have been things like 20%, 25% and 50%. These are complete bullocks.

Here is a log of my attempts so far at getting Nemeslime as my 230th win prize, and resetting when it wasn't Nemeslime:

[04/04 02:04:20] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5! Woo
[04/04 02:06:39] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/04 02:08:31] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/04 02:11:16] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/04 02:13:25] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/04 02:16:44] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/04 02:21:02] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/04 02:22:35] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/04 02:25:21] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/04 02:26:15] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/04 02:29:13] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/04 02:30:42] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/04 02:34:45] <RPGWizard> Sledgehammer x1
[04/04 02:37:02] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/04 02:45:04] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/04 02:45:10] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/04 02:45:11] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/04 02:48:19] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/04 02:50:32] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/04 02:52:48] <RPGWizard> Seed of Magic x5!
[04/04 02:54:24] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/04 02:55:43] <RPGWizard> Seed of Magic x5!
[04/04 02:57:09] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/04 02:59:21] <RPGWizard> ALABAST DRAGON
[04/04 03:03:14] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/04 03:04:34] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/04 03:07:50] <RPGWizard> Sledgehammer x1
[04/04 03:10:35] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/04 03:12:05] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/04 03:13:23] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/04 03:15:59] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/04 03:19:21] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/04 03:22:34] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/04 03:30:34] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/04 03:35:43] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/04 03:37:30] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/04 03:41:59] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/04 03:47:47] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/04 03:49:53] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/09 20:06:02] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 20:07:50] <RPGWizard> Seed of Magic x5!
[04/09 20:09:46] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/09 20:12:04] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 20:14:17] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/09 20:16:14] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 20:17:54] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/09 20:22:08] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/09 20:24:06] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 20:26:36] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 20:28:38] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 20:32:02] <RPGWizard> Alabast Dragon Neutral, Cleric, Defence Boost II!
[04/09 20:36:19] <RPGWizard> Seed of Magic x5!
[04/09 20:41:35] <RPGWizard> Seed of Magic x5!
[04/09 20:48:00] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 21:07:24] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/09 21:10:48] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/09 21:12:33] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 21:15:06] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/09 21:17:06] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/09 21:25:33] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 21:28:13] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 21:29:56] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/09 21:31:57] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/09 21:34:06] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 21:36:25] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 21:40:24] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 21:42:13] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/09 21:43:43] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 21:47:22] <RPGWizard> Seed of Magic x5!
[04/09 21:49:58] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 21:52:33] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 21:55:51] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 22:00:18] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 22:07:58] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 22:10:04] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 22:12:15] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/09 22:14:11] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 22:17:40] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/09 22:19:41] <RPGWizard> Sledgehammer x1!
[04/09 22:23:50] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 22:26:15] <RPGWizard> Seed of Magic x5!
[04/09 22:29:06] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 22:30:42] <RPGWizard> Seed of Life x5!
[04/09 22:32:33] <RPGWizard> Seed of Magic x5!
[04/09 22:35:36] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/09 22:38:04] <RPGWizard> Seed of Magic x5!
[04/09 22:39:57] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/09 22:43:11] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/09 22:58:33] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 23:01:14] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 23:04:33] <RPGWizard> Seed of Wisdom x5!
[04/09 23:07:07] <RPGWizard> Seed of Agility x5!
[04/09 23:14:41] <RPGWizard> Sledgehammer x1!
[04/09 23:18:10] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/09 23:22:10] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/09 23:25:29] <RPGWizard> Seed of Defence x5!
[04/09 23:28:01] <RPGWizard> Seed of Strength x5!
[04/09 23:32:06] <RPGWizard> Sledgehammer x1!

I believe that that is 5 Sledgehammers, 2 Alabast Dragons, and a crapton of seeds. Can ANYONE get some more information from a Japanese site or a better resource for getting Nemeslime in base Joker 2? Because this is ludicrous.

This is also ignoring about 8 other attempts (that resulted in seeds) that I made before I sat down in front of IRC and hammered out fights. I am tagging a copy of DQ9.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:21 PM

We tagged with Joker 2 like 10 times so yeah it seems either lower than 10% or maybe 250 wins.

Edited by Destructor526, 09 April 2012 - 10:22 PM.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:11 PM

This is probably unrelated, but in all these fights you've had while doing tag battles, how many opportunities did you have to fight the thieves?

That's a lot of battles, though...

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Erm... this might sound dumb (thinking about it, it could probably make some awful hoax material), but what if you need ultra slime on your team while tagging? I don't have the means of getting it myself, but maybe it's worth a shot?
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:26 PM

This is probably unrelated, but in all these fights you've had while doing tag battles, how many opportunities did you have to fight the thieves?

That's a lot of battles, though...

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Erm... this might sound dumb (thinking about it, it could probably make some awful hoax material), but what if you need ultra slime on your team while tagging? I don't have the means of getting it myself, but maybe it's worth a shot?


Thieves show up about once every 5 tag battles in my experience. I've had them show up as rarely as one in 10, and as quickly as one in 4, I believe. They're mostly a nuisance once you've tagged them and stolen an Executioner's Axe, because they have SO MUCH HP.

And what the heck, it's worth a shot. I'll change up my team when I take my next attempt.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:27 PM

Don't think I stole the axes yet. Guess I gotta scout whichever one again.
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:35 AM

my god it takes this much just to get nemeslime? theyd better make him able to synth in pro...... otherwise for us non-japanesse people it would waste lots of our money.....
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:00 AM

i wish u luck on getting neme

or we can go to destructor526's state :)
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:11 AM

Considering that in all likelihood, we're never getting Pro, I'm not sure how that's even remotely applicable.

Furthermore, what does going to Destructor's state have to do with anything?
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:10 AM

Being able to tag it from him?
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:35 AM

...why would I be able to tag Nemeslime from Destructor when he's planning on getting it from me?
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:14 AM

.........................

nvm
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 01:53 PM

What a paradox :).

With thtat tag and a wildcard since I'm too lazy to make one, he will help finish my library.

Edited by Destructor526, 10 April 2012 - 11:30 PM.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:15 AM

My Japanese guidebook says you have a chance of getting him every 10 wins after 200 wins in tag battles. So when you say you've done 200 battles, did you win them all? From what you posted it sounds kind of like you did, but I figured this was a possibility.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:06 PM

Yeah, you only get prizes from winning tag battles. At 200 tag battle wins, you get Ultra Slime. After that, every 10 gives you a random prize, but as you've seen, most of them are pretty undesirable.

Thanks for offering a useful source of information though. I guess I'll just have to keep hammering away and hoping my luck kicks in.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:13 PM

good luck RPG.

also you did say that joker 2 pro wasn't coming out in English version?
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:20 PM

We could try it again at 240 tags, I think we could get there easily. Maybe the RNG really screwed up at 230 or something.

My theory is if Joker 2 Pro hasn't been announced by this point, it isn't being localized. They could have given us Pro instead of regular, but they chose not to. That I think would be enough to indicate it's not being localized. That and Square Enix almost never released extra versions outside Japan. I understand Nintendo is publishing it, but it's not like Joker 2 sold well so all that makes us conclude it will not be coming outside Japan.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:37 PM

Yeah, you only get prizes from winning tag battles. At 200 tag battle wins, you get Ultra Slime. After that, every 10 gives you a random prize, but as you've seen, most of them are pretty undesirable.

Thanks for offering a useful source of information though. I guess I'll just have to keep hammering away and hoping my luck kicks in.


Yeah, I figured that was the case, but I just wanted to make sure.
I did a search now, and a Japanese Wiki claims that there is a 2% chance of getting him each time. So yeah, you might be at this for a while.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:46 AM

That is a significantly more reasonable number, given the luck I've had. So 2%? All right, 1/50 it is. This'll take a while, but it's not impossible.
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 12:03 AM

geeze all this trouble just to get neme? now 200 tags is high enough but over is just ridiculous......
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