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[Safis]

.... aaaaaand this is why I don't buy the English version of Dragon Quest games anymore.

[marhawkman]

Why? It's FUN!

[Dwaine]

.... aaaaaand this is why I don't buy the English version of Dragon Quest games anymore.

Don't worry, the pony crap is just limited to here. It hasn't seeped its way into the games yet.

And it never will if they know what's good for 'em!

[Safis]

Don't worry, the pony crap is just limited to here. It hasn't seeped its way into the games yet.

And it never will if they know what's good for 'em!

It wasn't the pony crap I was referring to. It's the entire content of this thread.

[Cesar Hernandez-Meraz]

Exactly. I still buy them, although I play in either French or Spanish, I tolerate them more than the English localization (even though they are full of horrible puns and needless name changes, just the same).

I could understand newbies to accept these changes just because they don't know any better, but I don't know why people who have known Barbara and Chamoro for years suddenly start calling them Ashlynn and Nevan as if those were their true names.

I learned to include those names in blog posts (to help with searches) but I still give the real names its proper place.

[marhawkman]

Seee... I've played several games before these, and well.... fan translations aren't that great. They tend to be overly literal. Especially when translated by people who aren't native speakers.

I mean really.... A lot of puns don't translate properly. The english version is full of puns because the Japanese version is too. I'm sure that the Japanese puns are just as groan inducing.

[Dwaine]

Seee... I've played several games before these, and well.... fan translations aren't that great. They tend to be overly literal. Especially when translated by people who aren't native speakers.

I mean really.... A lot of puns don't translate properly. The english version is full of puns because the Japanese version is too. I'm sure that the Japanese puns are just as groan inducing.

No, actually. That's something touted by the press and newcomers. If you listen to the 8-4 podcast (and by God, only listen to that one and jump to the halfway point) Honeywood said that they went in a different direction to amp up the humor. While the originals are still light-hearted, every item and name isn't a play on something. Take DQ V's Uptaten Towers. It's originally Castle Lenoule, sometimes translated as Lenoir/Renoir. It's a fun little tale, sure, but it's played straight as a kingdom that befell a tragic fate.

Edited by Dwaine, 12 November 2011 - 12:38 AM.

[marhawkman]

Hunh, hadn't seen that. Even so, it's not that bad.

[Safis]

No, actually. That's something touted by the press and newcomers. If you listen to the 8-4 podcast (and by God, only listen to that one and jump to the halfway point) Honeywood said that they went in a different direction to amp up the humor. While the originals are still light-hearted, every item and name isn't a play on something. Take DQ V's Uptaten Towers. It's originally Castle Lenoule, sometimes translated as Lenoir/Renoir. It's a fun little tale, sure, but it's played straight as a kingdom that befell a tragic fate.

Exactly. Yes, the Japanese scripts have a light-hearted humour to them, like you say. But they are not filled with horrible puns like the new English translations. It's an entirely different kind of humour, and can still be taken seriously. I understand that some people appreciate the style they decided to go with for the new translations, but having been a Dragon Quest fan since the original game came out on the NES, that is not what Dragon Quest is to me. The very same game can give two quite different feelings, depending on the translation.

For example, I played through Dragon Quest IX in Japanese. I have never personally played the English version, but there has been an abundance of discussion of it on this forum, complete with quotes, screenshots, and the like. The impression I get is that it is a very fun, quirky, sugary sort of experience. The original Japanese script, on the other hand, was a little silly at times and portrayed different characters' eccentricities in the way they talked, but it still presented it in a much more believable way. Honestly, I think the game was easier to understand, because the names for characters, monsters, locations, and items, as well as accolades were more direct and told you what it was instead of bending this way and that to include a joke every time.

[Stepchan]

I can't believe I didn't get this one, as I've heard part of the song before...

Technicolour Dreamcloth(as well as the Technicolor Tutu) is a reference to Technicolor Dreamcoat.



It took a crossover of it with My Little Pony for it to snap in my head.

Good lord,my bronies,come here.

Huh?

.... aaaaaand this is why I don't buy the English version of Dragon Quest games anymore.

Don't worry, the pony crap is just limited to here. It hasn't seeped its way into the games yet.

And it never will if they know what's good for 'em!

Well, I doubt they'll try to pander to the MLP fans in the DQ crowd regardless.

[Vzing]

Honestly, I think the pun involving Patty and Sellma really references "Party" (what Patty manages) and "Sell" (what Sellma does). I may be wrong since I haven't played Dragon Quest IX for a while. I just don't think that Dragon Quest IX would refer to the Simpsons for puns.

[Megalosaro]

I could be a double pun, Vzing. And I wouldn't doubt that they WOULD resort to Simpsons. That show is insanely popular.

[Quart20858]

No, actually. That's something touted by the press and newcomers. If you listen to the 8-4 podcast (and by God, only listen to that one and jump to the halfway point) Honeywood said that they went in a different direction to amp up the humor. While the originals are still light-hearted, every item and name isn't a play on something. Take DQ V's Uptaten Towers. It's originally Castle Lenoule, sometimes translated as Lenoir/Renoir. It's a fun little tale, sure, but it's played straight as a kingdom that befell a tragic fate.

Exactly. Yes, the Japanese scripts have a light-hearted humour to them, like you say. But they are not filled with horrible puns like the new English translations. It's an entirely different kind of humour, and can still be taken seriously. I understand that some people appreciate the style they decided to go with for the new translations, but having been a Dragon Quest fan since the original game came out on the NES, that is not what Dragon Quest is to me. The very same game can give two quite different feelings, depending on the translation.

For example, I played through Dragon Quest IX in Japanese. I have never personally played the English version, but there has been an abundance of discussion of it on this forum, complete with quotes, screenshots, and the like. The impression I get is that it is a very fun, quirky, sugary sort of experience. The original Japanese script, on the other hand, was a little silly at times and portrayed different characters' eccentricities in the way they talked, but it still presented it in a much more believable way. Honestly, I think the game was easier to understand, because the names for characters, monsters, locations, and items, as well as accolades were more direct and told you what it was instead of bending this way and that to include a joke every time.

i like the puns

[CoarseDragon]

Puns are interesting in hind-sight but when playing I just don't think that way. I take it all at face value. Never occured to me that Patty and Selma could be from the Simpsons or any other play on words. Guess my years of playing Might and Magic taught me to just roll those right on by.

[RPG Wizard]

I question the incentive to call the move "Disco Stew" if not to reference the Simpsons.

[King Considerate]

I actually think Disco Stu himself is a pun, and Disco Stew relates to something entirely different, but it might be a Simpsons joke, yes.

[King Considerate]

I actually think Disco Stu himself is a pun, and Disco Stew relates to something entirely different, but it might be a Simpsons joke, yes.

[marhawkman]

Yeah, there's an insanely large number of jokes related to Disco...

[Psychic]

A Pratfall is when you land on your buttocks. Jona and the Whale. *chuckle*

[Ifooboo]

I don't know if anyone mentioned AU1000, but I personally like this one. " Au " in the periodic table is " gold ", which is the color of AU1000.