Being intelligent does not equate to being competent. After Iwata stepped down, things seemed to improve.
Until yesterday, DQH was their FB page's cover photo. Today it is KH3. Whether we want to admit it or not, they have been providing fan service in some form. Type-0 was released, KH3, and, whether you give a rat's ass about it or not, the FF7 remake. 3 years ago I never would have believed that we'd even get the DQ mobile games, and I was planning on importing DQH. Hell, they even localized party chat in DQ4, which they could've dummied out and simply clone the non-Japanese DS version.
We're not the only fans who have been harping on them. The FF people have been screaming 7 remake for years, and they were adamant about Type-0. I can't remember how long ago people were spamming KH3.
Our corner of the SE fanbase has long been calling out their ineptitude. We've been the outcasts the most, so its not unlikely for us to jump on every perceived error.
I'm not planning on any non-DQ purchases from them until I see how the DQ franchise pans out, but I can say that I see A LOT more positive comments from all fan bases than I did even a year ago. They have to keep everyone happy.
I do wonder if the entire FF7 PC version on PS4 presentation was actually designed as a self-deprecating joke. "Let's try a classic bone-headed move because we deserve the heat, them reveal the treasure at the end with a wink". Vince McMahon became a billionaire by taking on the role of a true a-hole and allowed himself to be humiliated as a character to keep the fans buying tickets and PPVs.
I'm just not getting the same BS vibe from SE that I have in recent years.
That said, I peeked into my local Gamestop tonight after work, and I saw nothing from SE near the windows.
Let's see how things pan out across the board for the next few months. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: I should add, when did we EVER get a collector's edition for anything DQ?
Plus, Facebook games can be intrusive and over-sharing at times for your Facebook friends unless you make a bunch of tweaks to privacy settings.
You could always make a fake FB account.
I have one and the reason I made it was because of a gut feeling I had. So, story time:
I won full legal custody of my oldest son in 2005. His mother stopped showing to court and lost her visitations, etc. When I made a FB account, I was quick to block her and her family.
Last year, when my son was 9, I had a weird feeling come over me. Something told me to check her profile. I made a fake FB account and sure enough, 2 days earlier, she made a post with a pic of our son, saying he had been wrongfully taken and that she hadn't seen him in 10 years (despite the fact he was 9). Her sister left a comment saying she'd found an address to get ahold of him. I had my step daughter's Dad (whom I'm actually good friends with, go figure), take a screen capture.
Sure enough, a week or so later, she mailed my son a letter saying I was a druggy, a boozer, etc., and that she fought for a year to get him back (LOL).
Nothing else came of it. As much strife as I've had with her, I do hope she has a good life. Since she moved to Florida, it is #1 on the list of states I do not plan on moving to.
Point being, you could always have an account saying your name is Ted Nugent and play without issue. And if you have legit means to keep tabs on someone, its a handy option.
Despite my rants on the SE blog, I will say that I've had a huge interest in Heroes since I first saw footage of the Japanese version, which I was originally gonna import.
My rants were meant to call out perceived falsehoods, not say that I'm not excited for DQH.
I actually wanted DQH more than DQ7, since I feel the PS version to be acceptable- but I am a very small minority in that regard. When they said the fans as a whole demanded DQH more, I spoke the truth- the masses want 7- my opinion is certainly not the popular one, and I admit it.
In a sense I swallowed my pride (which could use a dash of Tobasco sauce).
It's also very possible he had no real idea as to the actual timeline about fan demand and DQH, but was aware fans were avidly demanding DQ, and some were likely asking for DQH specifically and in combination with the other, more prominent requests (7 is like THE big cahoona).
Though whether it's just PR, and they simply rewrote it in English writing it as though this was the most requested (which it wasn't...even Slime Mori Mori 3 has seen more requests), or he wasn't really aware of the fullness of the situation, yeah, it does feel a little disingenuous.
Personally, the change of the Facebook page from DQH to Dragon Quest, is suggestive, but then, they've put out so many suggestive elements over the last two years, and have done little to nothing with it (read: nothing). Which implies there's no meaning behind the statements.
Well, anyway, it'll be along post. A very long post. I hope they've the patience to read it.
Well, that was a nice interview, and I am grateful to see a Dragon Quest come to the US. I've also always been attached to the notion of DQ as an Action game, and this certainly seems a shift and upgrade from the traditional Dynasty Warrior's format.
So let's begin, shall we?
As others have pointed out, most notably redneck, this game was requested from the time the game was originally announced in Japan. We are well aware of EVERY Dragon Quest release, and while the fanbase is spread far and wide, the most diligent keep watch on news, and hope others are seeking and find our discussions and posts of either Japanese news articles, or US/EU news articles diligently on the heels of Japanese release notes.
We knew this game was coming out, we've been watching, we've been asking for it for a VERY long time now. It was not after the Japanese release. We already knew we wanted it.
I can understand that Mr. Aomi would be focused on the game development, and would likely be less apprised of the real timeline associated with Western Fan demands and requests, however, please realize that this will seem, to many, as disingenuous, or an outright lie.
Now, with this in mind, there's this gaping hole of Dragon Quest on Nintendo systems. I don't understand this. The PS3+PS4 is about equal to the 3DS, and the 3DS installbase is mostly built off of former DS users and owners. The DS was built around the idea of seeing Japanese games, and a plethora of Japanese RPG's. At least a very good portion of DS and 3DS owners are fans of RPG's, so there's a VERY viable and easily worked market that has been salivating over the number of Japan only games that have not come over...most notably Square-Enix games, and even more striking, all Dragon Quest releases.
I realize that DQ sales have not been in the range SE has desired. However, I understand the system, and profit, and I do realize that even Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime, could be classified as a success by virtually any company, and each game had generated solid revenue and profit well beyond the cost of the localization itself. I also realize that DQ hasn't really exploded independent of SE's actions and desire, and I realize, more profoundly, that this means DQ sales is mostly built around active fans who pay attention, and the level of marketing granted.
The greater the marketing campaign, the great the sales of the individual game. I am shocked that the unbelievable success of Dragon Quest IX did not trigger a change in mindset. It saw less overall marketing than the last two Star Ocean games. Commercials over a shorter period of time, and yet it outsold the last two Star Ocean releases combined. So while it hasn't triggered a runaway sales phenomena as say, Minecraft, it clearly sells well, and does draw support and attention from gamers.
I would love if SE or some insider does a study of the amount of money spent on Final Fantasy releases and the marketing associated with it, versus Dragon Quest and the marketing associated with that. If Dragon Quest was granted the same level of respect and marketing, done with enthusiasm, and a sense of intelligent approach in how to sell DQ, I'm sure DQ would match, or at least come close to matching, FF sales. It's an intuitive series that is easy to get into, learn, understand, and offers tremendous depth, while pushing that sense of adventure and exploration so missing in most games today.
I, and a few others, have been actively trying to keep calm, and keep people in a positive mode of thought regarding Dragon Quest releases. However it is rather difficult, because for all the hints and cryptic statements from SE Japan upper echelon, including producers, regarding western releases, without the proper action and taking full advantage of this and giving us something tangible, demonstrating real attention, care, and consideration for fan requests and demands, it feels hollow, and I'm unsure what I'm supporting.
What I'm saying is this. You have a fanbase that has been actively requesting not just Dragon Quest on the 3DS, but to treat these games as the gems they are, and advertising it from the perspective that it WILL succeed. If you approach it from the notion it will fail, than it will fail. So far we've had platitudes, cryptic statements, and this game. I truly do appreciate that this game is coming West, and I do appreciate seeing your CEO stand on a stage and acknowledge us Western fans, stating that DQ will be successful. However, such elements need to be watered.
This is like growing a garden, leaving it unattended. Planting a few seeds, then letting them to die by not watering them, then asking someone else to take over, and they take care of one plant, but leave the other two bereft of water, though they left the watering can nearby. Then after the internal sense that the garden wants to be developed and cultivated, you come back, state you'll take care of the garden, state you'll plant the spruce trees that would look great in the Western wing, but then only plant one type of flower in one area, then do a little watering, ignoring all the other requested plants. Even forgetting those smaller complimentary plants that allow the soil to restore its nutrients and keep the other plants growing stronger.
Plant that garden.
As another has posted, here's a list of the games that have been requested more than any other, that have long been forgotten.
1) Dragon Quest VII 3DS (The 3DS version PLEASE, I will not buy the mobile version without having the 3DS version present, in full physical form).
2) Dragon Quest X PC/WiiU/3DS/Mobile
3) Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3DS
4) Dragon Quest Monsters 2 3DS
5) Dragon Quest: Slime Mori Mori 3, aka Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime 2 3DS
6) Theatrhythm Dragon Quest
7) and hardly the least, just the most recent: Dragon Quest VIII 3DS
I have a feeling you are working on, or have worked on DQ7 3DS, but let's go with a teaser soon, or something to create ripples that will actually mend the bleeding wound. For many, the lack of any DQ announcements, especially the 3DS announcements, since DQH and the SE CEO's statement about DQ in the West making a come back, feels like you've taken salt and poured it onto that wound as it was healing, and now it is especially painful.
Even a small nonsense tweet about DQ in general would make a rather huge impact, especially if it's followed by something tangible and real. Best would be a tweet teasing a different game from the desired list of DQ games being requested for some time now. Like...oh, I don't know: "#DragonQuestintheWest I always wondered what it would be like riding a wolf..."
LOL, apparently redneck is a dirty and profane word
Some of the statements in this article infuriated me. Redneck and a few other posters had some choice comments for them.
My issue wasn't that it was PR talk, but that it was flat out lies. Had they said "we believe this, as an action RPG, will be a smash amongst Western players", THAT would have been quality PR, which is also keeping it real.
Best Buy had a whole series of DQVI promotions, around the release, in Long Island, and in Danbury CT. They sent a representative from Nintendo there, who gave me a DQVI poster and took my picture for marketing purposes, when I showed up. I went to two of these promotional events (hoping to do some DQIX canvassing) and only met one other DQ fan. At the second promo event I was told that I was the only one who showed. I found out about these promotions online, from a conversation from the GameFAQs forums, which lead me to a link to the Best Buy website with a blurb about the events.
It's almost like it was deliberately set up to fail. Why would they send a representative out to gather marketing info on a game release that they weren't aggressively promoting?
Wow, I think I recall that now. Right, it's not much different with the Gamestop window sticker. Spend some money for promotional items and a big scene, but little to no evidence of actually pushing or letting people know about the events.
It certainly does seem like it was setup to fail. Like they could say, see, we did spend money on a promotional campaign. I wonder if Nintendo and SE had a lot of infighting. It certainly seemed like SE, up until Dragon Quest IX, was setting itself up to fail. Assuming bad sales, doing less and less about it, then claiming DQ is a Japanese RPG that Westerners don't get. I have to wonder if this is due to SE, or did Nintendo decide they didn't care enough to follow through on their promise of assuring Dragon Quest in the West? I mean after 9 they dropped the ball one after the other, now we're looking at a 3DS devoid of any DQ releases outside of Japan. Was Nintendo deliberately assuring failure so it could have an excuse for a decision already made based in a corporate boardroom in Japan? Perhaps based on a notion that due to the DS popularity, that DQ9 should have sold even more? Like, 1m copies in the US alone? Let's face it, DQ9 was well advertised, but compared to something like, oh, I don't know, Final Fantasy 13, or Halo 3, or Call of Duty: Write a Name Here, it was paltry. The sales numbers fit perfectly with the campaign size, scope, and how long it ran. Maybe it just wasn't enough. Maybe there's another reason: SE demands that Nintendo did not want to deal with, or contract negotiations take forever. There are a number of potentials, but it definitely does seem like the DQVI campaign was designed as a farce.
The funny thing is that SE expected us to disappear into the void. 2 years ago they put up that Phil Rogers blog. I firmly believed it was designed to have, for lack of a better term, a bunch of sheep write in "Hurr durr, FF and KH". Then they'd deliver their FFs and KHs, from thence they could publicly claim they listened to the fans and delivered. Unfortunately for them, there were no sheep.
That was actually the true starting point in the DQ base becoming vocal- the VAST, perhaps 90% or more, of the requests were Dragon Quest. That likely lead to them thinking "Oh $#!&, our make believe game is blowing up in our faces!". Further down the line came Op. Hero, a bolster to my pages, and a virtual avalanche of fan outpouring.
I know I've said this before, but Heroes getting announced for us the day before the Japanese release and their use of Drew's hashtag is not mere coincidence. Nor is the fact they acknowledged and plainly said they were concerned about DQ7 selling. I sincerely commended their honesty instead of treating us like untouchables in a caste system.
I live literally down the road from one of the Sturm Ruger firearm factories. My Dad knew Bill Ruger Sr., and said what he admired about him was that he was willing to take risks and provide special services for his consumers. Around 1986, my Dad recalls, people were sending their old style single action revolvers to be modified with a transfer bar system that prevented direct contact between the hammer and the primer. As a result, you did not have to leave an empty cylinder chamber. You could have the entire wheel loaded and not worry about accidental discharge.
What made this conversion so amazing outside of the obvious mechanical improvements? Bill Ruger saw that it was done for FREE! The removed parts from before the conversion were also sent back to the consumer for collective purposes! My Dad recalls the THOUSANDS of guns shipped to Newport, New Hampshire for this service, and this absorbing of cost did not prevent Sturm Ruger from becoming the largest firearms manufacturer in the US, but also becoming the first gun company to wind up on the stock exchange!
SE would do well to follow the Ruger example. And I don't just mean the DQ folks- everywhere I go I see loads of discontent with them from virtually every fandom. I will say they have improved consumer relations in terms of the rumors of FF15 being made a quality title, and the individualized survey. Although I didn't much care for FF10-2, I'm glad they decided to localize the Last Mission portion of the game instead of half-assing the project by dummying out the content.
Nobody expects an overnight transformation. What I'd like to see is a continuance of this trend. After all, the couple of Ruger guns I bought were not purchased because my Dad worked there. They wound up housed near where they were manufactured because Ruger put out the product I wanted.
Well, it's worth wondering if you are REALLY seeing a location if you stay within the confines of a tourist location that already has things for you to look at picked out for you. Is it really Mexico if you don't see the real country? Is it really Hawaii if you avoid all the poverty and stay on the beach?
Are you ever fully emersing yourself in a place if you only stay at the tourist locations?
That's the long way of me saying it's probably safe but they've been known to hop into the tourist areas and pluck people up.
Of course its really Hawaii if you stay on the beach, but its only a small slice. As for the tourist areas of Mexico, from brochures I've read online they seem more like a pleasant place designated for tourism but not the Mexico you see on a Bourdain show for example. I've read that Tijuana has greatly increased in safety, and it indeed has some of the things I find interesting, but to me a vacation is best spent in a rural locale, or at least semi rural. 9 months living in Las Vegas was enough city for me to last a lifetime, but when my friends and I took a weekend trip to a town called Mesquite, and once out of Vegas I was enthralled by the beauty of the desert. To me, an ideal tourist area in Mexico would reflect that same beauty, and maybe give me a little insight on the lesser known customs of Mexican culture.
I believe there are 7 culinary traditions in Mexico. Granted, the Mexican-American food I had in Nevada was WAY above and beyond what you'll find in New Hampshire, but all it really did was make me want to experience the real thing. That, combined with the fact I've been fascinated by Mexican culture since I was a kid.
You pretty much summed up the impression I got in reading various pieces as far as safety. I'll gladly take a 90% safe tourist area on the beach rather than risk my life to experience what I truly want to. If there's any tourist areas in rural desert country, that'd be ideal.